World: r3wp
[Windows/COM Support]
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Volker 30-Oct-2005 [86] | Oh. a real plain /pro? But sure somebody else can encap? Just build a tcp-proxy and they encap it? |
Benjamin 30-Oct-2005 [87] | i saw some examples using this technique R2Win - version 1.5.1 J. Colineau used for topwindows.r |
Volker 30-Oct-2005 [88] | (dont have all that office-stuff for testing. Hmm, are there fre programms which i could use? |
Benjamin 30-Oct-2005 [89] | i think Graham encap it |
Volker 30-Oct-2005 [90] | R2Win Colineau gives some googles, but all links are death. cache too. |
Benjamin 30-Oct-2005 [91x3] | yes links are dead :( |
well im going to start by scrach | |
i whant to finish the doc first | |
DideC 31-Oct-2005 [94] | I can ask Jocko (Joseph Colineau) for its R2Win stuff, if you like ? |
Robert 31-Oct-2005 [95] | IMO if people really have a use for this COM stuff (which is by using dialects on top of it), I think it's OK for them to get a /Pro version. If it's of value than $99 isn't that much. |
Maarten 31-Oct-2005 [96] | I have rhe SDK and Rugby: want me to build it for you? |
Robert 31-Oct-2005 [97] | The available format specifies should be added to the docs. |
Benjamin 31-Oct-2005 [98] | the sources are in the links, it would be great to have it encaped |
Henrik 1-Nov-2005 [99] | how about a free encap service? :-) |
Robert 1-Nov-2005 [100x2] | What's the problem? Get the SDK and sponsor RT a bit for their work. |
If it's of value to you the deal is very fair. | |
Graham 1-Nov-2005 [102] | I think the discussion is how to provide com support for those without /Pro. |
Henrik 1-Nov-2005 [103] | robert, some of us just can't afford the SDK yet, but if there was an RT service that would let you encap an application for 5$, I might use it. |
Graham 1-Nov-2005 [104] | that would be too much work ... |
Henrik 1-Nov-2005 [105] | would it? maybe there could be a range of services you could use for a small fee. If RT were to have more income, I think such services would be worth looking at. |
Graham 1-Nov-2005 [106x2] | I guess the problem is when the encap fails ... |
since the person who wants the encap has no way of testing it before he submits it. | |
Henrik 1-Nov-2005 [108] | true... I guess there is not an easy way to detect a successfully encapped application. |
Volker 1-Nov-2005 [109] | time-limitation? YOu get as many 5-minutes-encapps as you want for free? |
Henrik 1-Nov-2005 [110] | time-limitation built into the encapped program? |
Volker 1-Nov-2005 [111] | Yes. |
Henrik 1-Nov-2005 [112] | that could be a thing, of course if you don't just figure out a way around it, but for testing that would be great |
Volker 1-Nov-2005 [113] | Or a spashscreen or something. EIther you advertise big for rebol, or you pay it away. |
Henrik 1-Nov-2005 [114x2] | well, it should be a developer thing only and it should be a little more annoying than what you'd see in demos for ordinary shareware programs. |
time limits are mostly annoying, but doesn't hamper usage in that time. I don't think the GUI or other things should be obscured | |
Volker 1-Nov-2005 [116] | No, i thought a click-away-spashscreen and then normal app. But for $5-encap testing time seems best. |
Robert 1-Nov-2005 [117] | Anyway, disucssion is OT. My point is, if someone can make value out of COM support, that getting a /Pro isn't a problem. If it's a problem, than I'm sure the COM support is just wanted for playing around. Which is OK, but doesn't fit RT's business strategy. |
Volker 1-Nov-2005 [118x2] | Coding and selling are two different talents. |
And its not OT, as, without Benjamin, there is no COM Support. | |
Henrik 1-Nov-2005 [120] | I think we could move the technicalities of remote encapping to the SDK group? |
BrianH 1-Nov-2005 [121] | Yes, so far Benjamin's been the only one with the expertise who's been able to put in the time to implement COM support. |
Gabriele 1-Nov-2005 [122] | an encap service as been discussed many times in the past. there are a number of problems in doing it. |
Graham 2-Nov-2005 [123] | Benjamin, is COM how one accesses inking functions on the tablet pcs ? |
Benjamin 2-Nov-2005 [124x2] | i dont know Graham, im working on providing a solution for those without /pro, |
i have almost finish the utility it I'll post it as soon i finish the testing, the solutions is very much like reb2win it provides the same functionality plus COM supporting, the cost of the license is in USD, is too expensive to me I'll buy it some day im sure :) i can barely pay my Internet connection, anyway my philosophy is not to buy software it doesn't matter if its windows or rebol. we all could doit better with free soft. | |
Graham 12-Nov-2005 [126] | Any progress ? |
Benjamin 13-Nov-2005 [127x2] | sorry i've been out for a while, the as i said before im working on a solution for those who dont have the /pro license, im working on the security of such a client because it opens a gate on a tcp port, the security must be hight imagine why... the development time has take more than i've ever imagine .... |
never the less i think it would be done in a cuple of weeks, i know i need to document as much as possible but i need time :( it will be here soon ... | |
Anton 2-Dec-2005 [129] | Benjamin, I would like to contribute to the COMLib project. Have you made any more changes ? |
Anton 3-Dec-2005 [130x2] | OK, couldn't wait. I have forked Benjamin's project, and I am cleaning it up. Recompiled the dll successfully and ran one of the word demos so far. |
All Ben's demos work except the Word open_save.r demo. | |
Robert 3-Dec-2005 [132] | Anton, what did you changed in comparision to Benjamin's versions? |
Anton 3-Dec-2005 [133x2] | Lots of spelling corrections :), more official rebol style guide compliant, reducing unnecessary code to be more rebolish.. |
More cleaning to be done.. | |
Robert 4-Dec-2005 [135] | Sounds good, any chance to get my hands on it? I have ported an Excel dialect to ComLib and would get it in sync than. |
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