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[Windows/COM Support]

Robert
1-Nov-2005
[101]
If it's of value to you the deal is very fair.
Graham
1-Nov-2005
[102]
I think the discussion is how to provide com support for those without 
/Pro.
Henrik
1-Nov-2005
[103]
robert, some of us just can't afford the SDK yet, but if there was 
an RT service that would let you encap an application for 5$, I might 
use it.
Graham
1-Nov-2005
[104]
that would be too much work ...
Henrik
1-Nov-2005
[105]
would it? maybe there could be a range of services you could use 
for a small fee. If RT were to have more income, I think such services 
would be worth looking at.
Graham
1-Nov-2005
[106x2]
I guess the problem is when the encap fails ...
since the person who wants the encap has no way of testing it before 
he submits it.
Henrik
1-Nov-2005
[108]
true... I guess there is not an easy way to detect a successfully 
encapped application.
Volker
1-Nov-2005
[109]
time-limitation? YOu get as many 5-minutes-encapps as you want for 
free?
Henrik
1-Nov-2005
[110]
time-limitation built into the encapped program?
Volker
1-Nov-2005
[111]
Yes.
Henrik
1-Nov-2005
[112]
that could be a thing, of course if you don't just figure out a way 
around it, but for testing that would be great
Volker
1-Nov-2005
[113]
Or a spashscreen or something. EIther you advertise big for rebol, 
or you pay it away.
Henrik
1-Nov-2005
[114x2]
well, it should be a developer thing only and it should be a little 
more annoying than what you'd see in demos for ordinary shareware 
programs.
time limits are mostly annoying, but doesn't hamper usage in that 
time. I don't think the GUI or other things should be obscured
Volker
1-Nov-2005
[116]
No, i thought a click-away-spashscreen and then normal app. But for 
$5-encap testing time seems best.
Robert
1-Nov-2005
[117]
Anyway, disucssion is OT. My point is, if someone can make value 
out of COM support, that getting a /Pro isn't a problem. If it's 
a problem, than I'm sure the COM support is just wanted for playing 
around. Which is OK, but doesn't fit RT's business strategy.
Volker
1-Nov-2005
[118x2]
Coding and selling are two different talents.
And its not OT, as, without Benjamin, there is no COM Support.
Henrik
1-Nov-2005
[120]
I think we could move the technicalities of remote encapping to the 
SDK group?
BrianH
1-Nov-2005
[121]
Yes, so far Benjamin's been the only one with the expertise who's 
been able to put in the time to implement COM support.
Gabriele
1-Nov-2005
[122]
an encap service as been discussed many times in the past. there 
are a number of problems in doing it.
Graham
2-Nov-2005
[123]
Benjamin, is COM how one accesses inking functions on the tablet 
pcs ?
Benjamin
2-Nov-2005
[124x2]
i dont know Graham, im working on providing a solution for those 
without /pro,
i have almost finish the utility it I'll post it as soon i finish 
the testing, the solutions is very much like reb2win it provides 
the same functionality plus COM supporting,    the cost of the license 
is in USD, is too expensive to me I'll buy it some day im sure :) 
i can barely pay my Internet connection, anyway my philosophy is 
not to buy software it doesn't matter if its windows or rebol. we 
all could doit better with free soft.
Graham
12-Nov-2005
[126]
Any progress ?
Benjamin
13-Nov-2005
[127x2]
sorry i've been out for a while, the as i said before im working 
on a solution for those who dont have the /pro license, im working 
on the security of such a client because it opens a gate on a tcp 
port, the security must be hight imagine why... the development time 
has take more than i've ever imagine ....
never the less i think it would be done in a cuple of weeks, i know 
i need to document as much as possible but i need time :( it will 
be here soon ...
Anton
2-Dec-2005
[129]
Benjamin, I would like to contribute to the COMLib project. Have 
you made any more changes ?
Anton
3-Dec-2005
[130x2]
OK, couldn't wait. I have forked Benjamin's project, and I am cleaning 
it up. Recompiled the dll successfully and ran one of the word demos 
so far.
All Ben's demos work except the Word open_save.r demo.
Robert
3-Dec-2005
[132]
Anton, what did you changed in comparision to Benjamin's versions?
Anton
3-Dec-2005
[133x2]
Lots of spelling corrections :), more official rebol style guide 
compliant, reducing unnecessary code to be more rebolish..
More cleaning to be done..
Robert
4-Dec-2005
[135]
Sounds good, any chance to get my hands on it? I have ported an Excel 
dialect to ComLib and would get it in sync than.
Anton
4-Dec-2005
[136x2]
Yes ... I could publish it, as now it is pretty much the same interface 
as Ben's. However, I plan to totally rearrange all that (probably), 
so my distro will be hard to keep up with for a while... Mmm... what 
to do... Work faster I suppose.. :)

I *could* release this version and fork again for future rearrangements, 
but I am not keen to double the work-load...
Ok, what I'll do is send you a zip of the current distro, but with 
not much promise of support. ie. that branch is marked for death. 
I will support your migrating to the new interface when that comes, 
though.
Graham
4-Dec-2005
[138x2]
I don't think Ben is working on comlib at present
What he said he was going to do was to find a way to provide comlib 
support for those without pro.
Rebolek
4-Dec-2005
[140]
I think /PRO is bad idea...but I said that many times :)
Anton
4-Dec-2005
[141]
Ben just emailed me, so good news.
Graham
4-Dec-2005
[142]
Anton, can your version do all the demos that Ben posted ?
Anton
4-Dec-2005
[143]
All except the WORD open_save.r demo. But I don't think Ben's could 
do that on my system either.
Graham
4-Dec-2005
[144x2]
what does that one do ?
I'm pretty sure most of the demos worked as advertised ...
Anton
4-Dec-2005
[146]
Don't worry, Ben and I are going to work together.
Benjamin
8-Dec-2005
[147]
Hello im back,  im sending sources and demos to Anton. he's going 
to post sources and documentations on his site.
Anton
8-Dec-2005
[148]
Excellent.
Benjamin
8-Dec-2005
[149x2]
check you'r mailbox sourcer shold be there by now
i mean sources, also i whant to thank you all for giving you'r attention 
in this project.