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[rebcode] Rebcode discussion
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Gabriele 15-May-2007 [2247x2] | he likes it a lot (liquidgl), but it's too big, so max will need to "distill" it a bit :) |
that is, my idea (which carl agreed on, and i think others too), is that the app does not get a mouse click event, it gets a "button pressed" event. (not sure if the explanation is clear) | |
Pekr 15-May-2007 [2249x2] | hmm, maybe we could use kind of devices for that, no? Events could be queued etc. :-) |
chatting in wrong group once again .... :-) | |
Gabriele 15-May-2007 [2251] | yep, please move :) |
Oldes 15-May-2007 [2252] | I'm sure I don't want VID improvements before of rebcode.... I want CORE with rebcode first... And I really hope that some release will not be postponed just because there is no new tree-list GUI or something else |
Pekr 15-May-2007 [2253x2] | exactly - Core is the infrastructure - let us play with kernel first ... |
Oldes - but maybe RT has real concern here. You can imagine there will be many requests for furhter improvements, bug fixes, etc., so that we can "steal" time from RT's resources and hence View could get even more postponed ... dunno ... | |
Oldes 15-May-2007 [2255] | yes, I know... i'm very patient... |
Gabriele 15-May-2007 [2256] | core with rebcode is a different thing from core with all the rebcode improvements that have been proposed. |
Pekr 15-May-2007 [2257x2] | there is so many proposed improvements? I thought that Brian requested few opcodes? |
.... remembering when rebcode was introduced, Carl seemed to implement improvements in light speed :-) | |
Gabriele 15-May-2007 [2259x2] | even if there are only a few... it's still some time subtracted from other stuff. so i can't promise anything about that, especially since i don't know the details of everything. |
Carl might be able to give you a much better answer... | |
Pekr 15-May-2007 [2261] | Carl would have to visit us here from time to time, to get us a better answer :-) |
Geomol 15-May-2007 [2262x2] | The old versions are still out there, Windows only. Not true! rebview1350024 from 16-Oct-2005 is for OSX incl. rebcode. My guess is, rebview1350042 from 14-Oct-2005 include rebcode too. Haven't tried it out though. |
It's the first version of rebcode, you'll find in those. A later version was released for Windows, yes. | |
Pekr 15-May-2007 [2264] | Geomol - does codebase for RPaint still exist? Will you resurrect the app once new compositing enigne with R3 is inplace, along with rebcode? |
Geomol 15-May-2007 [2265] | Pekr, yes and yes, I plan to complete RPaint, when I can. |
[unknown: 10] 15-May-2007 [2266x3] | Confirmed !! Linux REBCODE version is rebview1350042.tar.gz...Thanks verify with 'print system/internal/rebcodes' |
Now i only need the webpages [Opcode Reference] and [DEMOS] anyone has those cached? | |
Aaaaaiiiii that 1350042 version is a real old one ..but it has Rebcode..... | |
BrianH 15-May-2007 [2269x3] | Geomol, those OS X versions predate the Great Renaming, so most of the opcodes are different. |
Ditto with the Linux version, Rebolinth. | |
The Great Renaming happened with 1.3.60 - look for versions later than that. | |
[unknown: 10] 15-May-2007 [2272] | yes i spotted that...but linux does not go further then December 2006 unfortuneatly.. I think i have to deal with Rebcode thats limited on linux..at least I have someting that does assembly ;-) |
Geomol 15-May-2007 [2273] | Yeah, the OSX version, I use (which must be very close to the Linux version), is mainly for testing performance and playing around. Not for serious work. |
Micha 1-Nov-2007 [2274x4] | o |
why this code not work on linux ? | |
f: rebcode [][apply j make [ image! 0x0] insert j 1 256 return j ] | |
i use rebol2650042 | |
Henrik 1-Nov-2007 [2278] | micha, what exactly does it do? I don' t have access to that version right here. |
btiffin 1-Nov-2007 [2279x3] | Mich; I'm not real up on rebcode, but I don't think apply can't be applied to make. Apply can't evaluate action! or op! types. So for that part you'd want m: does [make image! 0x0] f: rebcode [] [apply j m [] return j] Then; I've never got the series opcodes to work. insert, change ... none of those. mold system/internal/rebcodes/insert makes it look like they are not implemented. So I would f: rebcode [] [apply j m [] do j [insert j 1] return j] to get your to work, but with the do it's not going to be rebcode speedy. |
Sorry ... Micha; | |
Ok, played. 2.6.50.4.2 version insert takes word! series! so m: does [make image! 0x0] f: rebcode [] [apply j m [] insert j [1] return j] will assemble and run, but I get a mungled image when I try it. (Can't get the 256 count thingy to assemble) | |
Oldes 5-Jan-2008 [2282] | How to test 'none value in rebcode? SETT sets false also for zero so I cannot use it:/ |
Geomol 6-Jan-2008 [2283x4] | type? result value-to-check |
That one gets the type and put it in result. And that wasn't what you asked, I just realize. :) Let me think... | |
>> ex: rebcode [/local a][set.i a none eq.i a none ift [print "a is none"]] >> ex a is none | |
Above example done under Windows with: REBOL/View 1.3.61.3.1 18-Nov-2005 Core 2.7.0 | |
Oldes 6-Jan-2008 [2287] | In rebcode none is same like zero so if you want to check value where are integers or can be none, than it's not enough. The best way how to solve it now is not to use such a logic, or use something like this: ex: rebcode [a /local r n no][type? r a print r set n none type? no n eq.i r no ift [print "a is none"]] which is quite heavy. Or find out the integer value for each datatype. Or is there any better way how to work with value returned by the type? opcode? |
Oldes 7-Jan-2008 [2288x2] | type? none is in rebcode integer 28 so to test none value it's possible to do: r: rebcode[a][type? t a eq.i t 28 ift [print "a is none"]] r none |
I found it using this: r: rebcode[][set i 0 set n none type? n n while [lt.i i 10000][eq.i i n ift [print i] add.i i 1]] r | |
Geomol 7-Jan-2008 [2290x2] | I feel, the main goal for rebcode implentation is speed, so it makes sense, that none is the same as zero. It would probably hit performance a lot, if you had the usual REBOL datatypes in rebcode. |
Maybe it's confusing, that rebcode has NONE at all!? | |
BrianH 7-Jan-2008 [2292] | Maybe it's confusting that something as basic as NONE? doesn't have a corresponding opcode. |
Geomol 11-Feb-2008 [2293x2] | Ready for some fun? |
Here's a MOS 6502 emulator written in rebcode, I made over the last few days: http://www.fys.ku.dk/~niclasen/rebol/language/em6502.r | |
GiuseppeC 11-Feb-2008 [2295] | Geomol: you are crazy ! |
Geomol 11-Feb-2008 [2296] | And no, you can't play Elite with it! ;) I made this to test the speed of rebcode. That's my primary goal with this. So there is no Operating System stuff of any kind, so no I/O for keyboard, joysticks or screen. |
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