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Monza "Grand Prix" is 2, 3 and 4 september. So if any, it's not formula 
one at this date.

Yep, DideC is right. See www.formula1.com.

so there is no "race" condition?

Monza event calendar : http://www.monzanet.it/AreaImmagini/CalendarioPDF/2005/Calendarioal comune 2005.pdf

web site updated! http://www.colellachiara.com/devcon05/index.html

As you see I got a slot but no topic yet... I have some ideas, but 
I'm not sure what you are interested in most. So, hey, why not ask? 
:-))

Ok, ideas I have are:


1. Is commercial success of Rebol bound to open-source the interpreter?
2. make-doc-pro browser as a base for an IOS/xpeers based Wiki
3. The RPC idea - 12 months later


If you have an other idea let me know :-)) I'm open to think about 
all kind of topics.

I like (1).

We should have a discussion forum slot and/or hack-a-solution session. 
 It will be good if we could have a project to tackle together, besides 
presenting . This could help us either build new mezz, or prototype 
some ideas. We could post ideas on what to do in the hack session 
ahead of time.

I don't fully understand 2) Do you plan for kind of "web interface 
for IOS"?

about discussion: i hope we can have plenty of that after 4 pm. :) 
maybe we can have a room at the hotel or something like that to sit 
around a table and just talk

otherwise... i'll see if we can stretch the school time to 5 pm

... and drink :-)

:)

btw, what do you think of the plan for Rome?

Gabriele - how expensive is accomodation in Treviglia?

2) No, Shadwolf  and I have done a Reblet that renders MDP documents. 
Something like his MDP-GUI. The idea is to use such a browser (with 
an attached editor) as base for a x-internet wiki system. Distributed 
via IOS.

no idea yet, i'm waiting for that from Mario.

I just visited Rome in May :-)) Very nice city.

plan for Rome sounds really attractive, although in my case there 
are several factors - how to get to Italy (probably by car, but I 
can't travell myself that far a way ...) and money - I invested into 
Xidys and now I am short for money :-)

So I count: +1 for topic 1

Robert - +1 for topic 1? Is that your topic? :-) So you want to have 
presentation about possible advantage of open-sourcing Rebol? Or 
am I missing something?

Yes, these are my ideas I can present (or say something about) at 
DevCon 2005.

simply - two nights in Rome, right? It is some 180 EUR for accomodation, 
then there is train to Millano - 50 EUR. But what if we go by car? 
Should we travell directly to Rome? Or first accomodate ourselves 
in Treviglio and travell to Rome by train?

The title doesn't state "advantage of open-sourcing Rebol", the presentation 
will about if it's mandatory to get commercial success.

or not. ;-)

ah, that could be interesting. You have some experience in that area? 
That is really a good question - "how to get rebol succesfull"? Today 
I posted another links to article talking about Ruby (Rails) and 
such arctile mentions Python, PHP, Perl, but noone ever mentions 
Rebol - I wonder why ... - so - good topic!

petr: if you share the room (they're all double rooms) it's €90 for 
two nights. and by car it can cost you more than €50 (unless you 
share too). but, i guess in your case it's just much cheaper to get 
directly in milan.

I will probably go directly for devcon to Milan, leaving Rome visit 
for some later time once I will be rich :-) Well, I will see - I 
need to talk to Cyphre and Ladislav how do we travell. If we can 
go by one car, the expenses will be lower of course ...

we'll miss you guys in rome though :)

we will see :-)

So I count: +2 for topic 1

make it +3 - interesting topic :)

How about the hack-session?

Ok... I will focus my thoughts to it...

the problem with that is where to fit it...

we could shorten some talks if you think a hask session would be 
better to have.

*hack

Gabriele, if and when you get the technical details for a webcast, 
let me know. My family has 2 vacations planned and so I won't be 
able to make it. : ^(

the plan so far is to use the same tech of last year, just with more 
experience ;)

I think that a hack session will be really useful it will teach us 
how do we collaborate when meeting in person.

but... i have seen a couple of new streaming servers around, i'll 
make sure to test them out.

it is also possible to do that after the "conference", i.e. after 
4 pm. plenty of time till night ;)

We need to make the most out of our gathering. I think sharing what 
we have been doing our our pov is good. But we need to find ways 
to improve our projects by either sharing code, or learning to collaborate 
efficiently. Things that are only learned in an actual project.

That's what I suggest, because it will be non controllable process 
;-))

dunno if we have internet at the hotel tough.

Gabriele, thanks.

*hack will be a completely uncontrolable experiment ;-)

IIRC UMTS is very good in Italy too,right? Maybe we can use this.

Maybe we should do it on the first day.