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[DevCon2005] DevCon 2005
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JaimeVargas 7-Jul-2005 [252] | Retrying... |
shadwolf 7-Jul-2005 [253x3] | ;) |
I have cut the play back ;) | |
what I dislike with QT is the latency ... some time it just hangs we have squares on screen every where | |
JaimeVargas 7-Jul-2005 [256] | I only get one picture of you and then it freezes and dies. With QT you will get on buffering and play a little then it will back to buffering... |
shadwolf 7-Jul-2005 [257] | what i like with shoutcast is the speed of connections |
JaimeVargas 7-Jul-2005 [258x2] | (In a bw starve situation) |
I going to upgrade to newer version of VLC to see if that is the problem | |
shadwolf 7-Jul-2005 [260x2] | okay ;) |
would be cool to make a rebol multimedia server like it was proposed last year :) | |
JaimeVargas 7-Jul-2005 [262] | (Dowloading....) |
shadwolf 7-Jul-2005 [263] | okay i'm trying to solve lost frames issue |
JaimeVargas 7-Jul-2005 [264] | This time a got more frames, but the image quality is really bad. I have a lot of 32x32 pixel color blocks... |
shadwolf 7-Jul-2005 [265x2] | ??? |
What I like too is the hability to input texte over the image... | |
JaimeVargas 7-Jul-2005 [267] | Then a bunch of errors that for some weird reason I can't copy here. Maybe Unicode chars. |
shadwolf 7-Jul-2005 [268] | are you looking at the stream actually ? |
JaimeVargas 7-Jul-2005 [269] | I have seen your face in one still with the previous VLC. With the newer one I just got squares of 32x32 pixels of different colors. So I guess the codec fail early. |
shadwolf 7-Jul-2005 [270] | ??? |
JaimeVargas 7-Jul-2005 [271] | But I got a bunch of those that seemed to be moving... |
shadwolf 7-Jul-2005 [272] | hum so it's vnc witch have a codec problem ;) |
JaimeVargas 7-Jul-2005 [273] | Don't know still there is the problem with the dropping pkts. |
shadwolf 7-Jul-2005 [274] | we can make on real time subtitleling using shoutcast or send to audience key points |
JaimeVargas 7-Jul-2005 [275x2] | I don't think this is good quality et all. |
Regarding subtitling. That can be done also in Real Time with QT we just need a better QT-Broadcaster. | |
shadwolf 7-Jul-2005 [277x2] | but it's dynamic subtittle ;) |
well VLC is maybe problematic or have a codec problem | |
JaimeVargas 7-Jul-2005 [279x2] | I know of some where you can have overlays, and preload the transparencies and do switching back and forth between multiple cameras, and slides with transition effects. Only that is cost about USD$400. |
So I don't have it. I used the free one. | |
shadwolf 7-Jul-2005 [281] | I'm trying with the other codec but then it's super slow |
JaimeVargas 7-Jul-2005 [282x2] | Same in QT Real Time special effects and subtittles. |
This is the erros that I was getting from VLC. ffmpeg: more than 5 seconds of late video -> dropping frame (computer too slow ?) ffmpeg: more than 5 seconds of late video -> dropping frame (computer too slow ?) nsv: invalid signature 0x4f87b2d5 (some weird chars here wer erased) nsv: invalid signature 0xb43e69b0 (some weird chars here wer erased) nsv: invalid signature 0xeac692dd (some weird chars here wer erased) nsv: invalid signature 0x1ef6e9da (some weird chars here wer erased) | |
shadwolf 7-Jul-2005 [284x4] | yes but if you have ugly squares every where that means that the image is not decoded properly |
I lost 1 frame every 3 seconds ;) | |
so the final word is that you don't like shoutcast ;) | |
0.8.2 is this the version you are using ? | |
JaimeVargas 7-Jul-2005 [288] | yes but if you have ugly squares every where that means that the image is not decoded properly because usually codecs divide the image in sections and reconstruct it by multiple phases from bigger grain (bigger square blocks) to smaller (pixels). So my suspicion on the failure on the codec part. It maybe a problem of not receiving enough data (frame drops or pkt drops), or problems with jitter and interleaving. |
shadwolf 7-Jul-2005 [289x2] | maybe the support for shoutcast video stream is not optimal yet |
with winamp and win2K it's quite good ;) | |
JaimeVargas 7-Jul-2005 [291] | Or maybe a very bad implementation. Don't know enough about Shoutcast / VLC combo to know more. |
shadwolf 7-Jul-2005 [292] | but not every one can use this I know |
JaimeVargas 7-Jul-2005 [293x2] | Yes version 0.8.2 |
I will go with Shoutcats if I see a benefit. So far I don't see one. | |
shadwolf 7-Jul-2005 [295] | yes I understand I'm a win user for win/linux environnement it's quite good to use shoutcast but maybe MacOSX tools are still too young |
JaimeVargas 7-Jul-2005 [296x3] | We need platform coverage, real-time archiving and real-time broadcasting, broacast relaying, easy setup, low bw, and high quality. |
A set of requirements which is quite demanding. | |
I think features such as subtitile, special effects, multiple input (cameras, files), comes second in priority. | |
shadwolf 7-Jul-2005 [299] | hum yes but can be good especially to add special subtitles to point to key information |
JaimeVargas 7-Jul-2005 [300] | (Leaving now I already polluted this channel too much) |
shadwolf 7-Jul-2005 [301] | what shows me last year is that the quality of the audio/video retransmission was really poor ... but maybe that was hardware problems |
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