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[DevCon2005] DevCon 2005
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BrianH 4-Oct-2005 [2126] | Oh, the autoconfig wizard. You can ignore that error for now - it is probably caused by proxy settings or some such. As long as at least some of the seeders are poked through their NATs or otherwise visible to the net, you should still be able to download. |
Pekr 4-Oct-2005 [2127] | Those are my settings for Azureus taken from my xDSL modem NAT |
Graham 4-Oct-2005 [2128] | You need to make sure that the router also forwards the port to your ip address. |
BrianH 4-Oct-2005 [2129] | Later you can tweak the settings to make it run faster. |
Graham 4-Oct-2005 [2130] | For those that have firewall problems, suggest that they do the http download. |
Pekr 4-Oct-2005 [2131] | Yes, simply catch those three ports and NAT (translate/forward) them to your internal IP address - address of PC azureus is installed on ... |
Alan 4-Oct-2005 [2132] | Graham:got the files via torrent just trying to set up Azureus |
BrianH 4-Oct-2005 [2133x2] | My Netgear NAT/firewall appliance does this automatically with UPNP. I think the Belkin supports that too. |
Be sure to not forward the remote control port (default 6883) beyond the firewall though, or other people can make your computer download stuff. | |
Jean-François 4-Oct-2005 [2135] | It's the first time I'm using Bittorent . What does Seeds 4(6) and Peers 0(1) mean ? |
Alan 4-Oct-2005 [2136] | think it means that there are 6 ppl with the torrent and 4 are online/the other not sure about |
Graham 4-Oct-2005 [2137x2] | It means there are 6 people who are seeding ( ie. they are not downloading ), and you are connected to 4 of them, and there is 1 peer ( who is downloading ), but 0 connected to you. |
ie. you are not uploading to anyone. | |
BrianH 4-Oct-2005 [2139] | Everyone that is downloading or has downloaded the file(s) is a peer, part of the swarm, until they disconnect. What Azureus calls a Peer is someone who hasn't finished downloading yet - this was traditionally referred to as a Leach, but some people got offended. A seed is someone who has the whole file(s) and is still connected to the torrent to provide the file(s) to those who are still downloading. When it says Seeds 4(6) and Peers 0(1), it means the tracker can see 6 "seeds" but you are actually connected to 4, and that the tracker can see 4 "peers" but you aren't connected to any of them. If you are behind a NAT your external IP address is different, so you may be in either the peer or seed set, one of the ones you aren't connected to. You may also be connected to others through DHT, a kind of distributed tracker. The regular tracker won't necessarily see those, so you can't assume that the 4 seeds you are connected to are all part of the 6 that the tracker sees, for instance. This only matters when you are connecting to shaky tracker sites or those that enforce friendly upload/download ratios. |
Graham 4-Oct-2005 [2140] | 1 peer |
BrianH 4-Oct-2005 [2141] | On a more DevCon-related note: Maarten, thanks for mentioning the posting of the experimental rebcode support! I have been going through it, figuring out how to improve the assembler and such. Fun! |
Brett 4-Oct-2005 [2142] | What can I use to view the mp4 file? Get errors in WMP and QT that the profile used to encode it is not supported. Have updated QT to support mpeg-4. |
Graham 4-Oct-2005 [2143] | I used WMP, but I guess I had all the codecs needed. |
Luca 5-Oct-2005 [2144] | Brett - I received an error about an unknow codec from Quicktime too, but if I press the play button when it shows a black screen, the video starts with a good video and audio. |
Pekr 5-Oct-2005 [2145] | no problem with codecs here. I stopped to use whatever else than divx and xvid. Those guys did really good work in bringing you good codecs. So - go and download some codec pack - e.g. ffdshow, or all-in-one codeck pack ... go to http://www.free-codecs.com |
Luca 5-Oct-2005 [2146] | I'm using ABC and I'm behind a router, even if I didn't configure any forwarding the program is able to upload. Is it starting the uploads sessions as a client other than a server? |
Graham 5-Oct-2005 [2147x2] | Carl says "I invented multitasking" ! |
This was at 20:46 | |
BrianW 5-Oct-2005 [2149] | I saw that too. I don' t know or care enough to argue, though :-) |
Brett 5-Oct-2005 [2150] | Thanks for the tips. Luca, yes I should have just clicked play on the black screen! Sheesh. :-) |
BrianH 5-Oct-2005 [2151x2] | The www.free-codecs.com site is a little iffy nowadays, and doesn't have current versions. The K-Lite people lost the domain and someone else picked it up for their portal. The current K-Lite codec packs, Real and Quicktime Alternative are now at http://www.codecguide.com/ Good luck! |
Luca, torrent clients can initiate connections either as a client or a server, but if you open a port to allow connections as a server you usually get a faster connection, depending on circumstances. It is a better idea in the long run, especially if you keep your torrent client (and in the case of Azureus, Java runtime) updated so you get the latest security fixes, as you should with any network software. | |
Luca 5-Oct-2005 [2153] | I thougth that they open client connections to download files while keep an open server port to let others download from its. it would be interesting to understand how a client that share a file open a client connection. I mean where it connects to. |
[unknown: 9] 5-Oct-2005 [2154] | I believe Carl is talking about pre-emptive multitasking. And as far as I'm aware, he did invent it, do you know something different? |
Volker 5-Oct-2005 [2155x3] | when? didnt unix or such have it before? or gepard, sinclair ql? or does "re-emptive multitasking" mean something more special? |
when -> when, must be before amiga then? | |
i admit his one is was best :) | |
Gabriele 5-Oct-2005 [2158] | i'm currently recording my speech. will be on in a few hours. |
Volker 5-Oct-2005 [2159] | recording? ah hum, does that mean you talk now? ;) |
Pekr 5-Oct-2005 [2160x2] | But Carl said that tasking for rebol will come in 3.x family, so it means - never or not sooner than in two years imo :-) |
Volker: he surely means encoding :-) | |
Volker 5-Oct-2005 [2162] | Give Carl a loong holliday and i am sure he comes back with tasking, 3.0 or not :) |
Pekr 5-Oct-2005 [2163] | yes, it seems so :-) VM appeared from nowhere and voila - it is here :-) |
Gabriele 5-Oct-2005 [2164x2] | transferring to the computer; recording is not that wrong to indicate that and it was shorter :P |
after transfer we have encoding. | |
Pekr 5-Oct-2005 [2166] | :-) |
[unknown: 9] 5-Oct-2005 [2167] | Volker, no, as far as I'm aware even back in the early 80's `Carl was credited by even Byte magazine as the inventor. |
Pekr 5-Oct-2005 [2168x2] | I am just curious how is that Carl did not include strong modularisation into Rebol from the very beginning? |
Amiga had even async library calls (devices), it was really a joy to watch that 7HMz system do cool job, copying on 3 floppies, without a glitch to UI usablitiy - now try to insert floppy or CD into your 3GHz WinXP system - that is really rudiculous what MS thinks :-) | |
[unknown: 9] 5-Oct-2005 [2170] | I'm guessing the reason Rebol was not modularized up front, is that his goals was that it be so small that it did not need to be. It is sort of like when developers make games for handhelds, they think it will be easier somehow than full computers. But a hand held is only small in size physically. And yes, the Amiga was simply cool. PCs still suck, even when they are 400 bloody times faster!!! |
Pekr 5-Oct-2005 [2171x3] | yes, but I mean modularisation in regards to tasking/threading, other kind of events etc ... |
but for overall kind of apps, rebol is ok as it is, plus minus few handy changes would be welcomed. Lack of tasking imo in no way prevets us from building usefull stuff (maybe only in the case when you want to have kind of server app) | |
I wonder about one thing - would ppl here or even let's include ml to have kind of poll available? I think that RT has (starting from 1.3 project) kind of fresh energy aproach, so maybe if we present our ideas for enhancements/fixes to Carl in some unified way (REP for e.g.), we could then create dedicated SIGs to work on it further. Some topics for discusion - better library interface, oulining VID future, sound, Rebol windowing (in regards to OS layer) etc. | |
[unknown: 9] 5-Oct-2005 [2174] | Yup, I suggested this in detail at the DevCon. The question is, how public to make it? We could Use Qtask right now for this. Use the Project Chat to discuss features, and the Tasks to outline specific items. With Qtask, you can assign Carl as the Doer (LOL), and you can set yourself as a watcher so that if there is any action on a task you know about it. Cons: Qtask is by invite only right now (which makes it a bit a elitist, which I apologize for). It is a slow interface, although it will get faster each month, until we reach the point it has client apps, which will be very fast. |
Pekr 5-Oct-2005 [2175] | I noticed its interface is rather slow - is that due to complicated design? Or slow connection to Internet? |
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