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[DevCon2005] DevCon 2005
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Chris 1-Oct-2005 [1680x2] | launch http://www.ross-gill.com/r/rebcon-map.r ; or 'where' on my rebsite ; an overview of virtual conference attendees... |
Should the conference be virtually attendable tomorrow... | |
Benjamin 1-Oct-2005 [1682x2] | pekr, last one, whats that noise about droping VID for GUI ? does RT have plans to enhace current view controls or maybe a more complete framework to develop visual applications ? |
i mostly agree on pekr top ten cuestions, i look forwad to this answers ! | |
Graham 1-Oct-2005 [1684x2] | No news again? |
Should be 9:30 Am by now ... | |
Tomc 1-Oct-2005 [1686] | hung over |
Graham 1-Oct-2005 [1687] | from reboling?? |
Tomc 1-Oct-2005 [1688] | maybe whineing |
Graham 1-Oct-2005 [1689] | My carefully crafted disaster management plan for the Devcon 2005 included backup videos that I could watch :) |
Tomc 1-Oct-2005 [1690] | mine included dinking with programs for shootout |
Graham 1-Oct-2005 [1691] | Good luck with those .. I'm not sure how much value is in these language shootouts |
Tomc 1-Oct-2005 [1692] | value in personal amusement is sufficent |
Arthur 1-Oct-2005 [1693] | Tom, howdie |
Graham 1-Oct-2005 [1694] | A language shootout on an actual application - such as building a p2p chat that passes thru school firewalls - would be more useful. |
Tomc 1-Oct-2005 [1695] | Hi Aurtur |
Arthur 1-Oct-2005 [1696] | you in Cali? |
Tomc 1-Oct-2005 [1697x2] | oregon |
do http://www.ross-gill.com/r/rebcon-map.r | |
Arthur 1-Oct-2005 [1699] | oh, Chris' map kinda showed Cali maybe north a little. |
Tomc 1-Oct-2005 [1700] | maybe 200 miles to Calif |
Arthur 1-Oct-2005 [1701] | so what' the news from the conference. What's going on now? Any idea? |
Tomc 1-Oct-2005 [1702x2] | breakfast? |
no talking | |
Arthur 1-Oct-2005 [1704x2] | ah Fazoli's |
I guess mama always said "Don't tlk when you're eating" :-) | |
PhilB 1-Oct-2005 [1706] | Nobody on AltMe from the Devcon ? Should be about time for Gregg to start ? |
Graham 1-Oct-2005 [1707] | I guess Ladislav has finished talking about BEER now. |
Pekr 1-Oct-2005 [1708] | Guys - the good thing is, that the plan is to xyz fold Rebol's popularity, so next year's Devcon will have to change information strategy and imo RT will have to write some announcements or blog articles prior to conference, make some short script of - [wait conference-evening post articles] kind :-) |
Graham 1-Oct-2005 [1709x6] | BEER is a great framework to use. They have implented a file transfer protocol, authentication, and .. a working LNS profile. |
It would be an excellent base upon which to rewrite Altme with file sharing. | |
Except ... | |
the licensing is GPL :( | |
It uses a modified version of Romano's ATCP for the async io. | |
( if Ladislav hasn't started his talk .. I'm in trouble! ) | |
Pekr 1-Oct-2005 [1715x2] | why in trouble? They are not monitoring AltME imo :-) it really does not matter, if you release some info, which is gonna be released today anyway :-) |
is BEER kind of Uniserve? | |
Graham 1-Oct-2005 [1717x3] | No. |
I have a working CRM done with it. | |
You can see that it async as you can download files and transfer files while still using the GUI. | |
Pekr 1-Oct-2005 [1720] | Uniserve is async in its nature too, no? |
Graham 1-Oct-2005 [1721x6] | http://www.compkarori.com/emr/remr.exe |
BEER really requires, as far as I can see, a BEER client. Whereas Uniserve works with anything. | |
Actually, there is no client/server relationship, it is all peer networking. | |
You have a beer listener, and a beer initiator. | |
Either can be a listener or an initiator. | |
The authors were Ladislav, Cyphre and Jaime. | |
Pekr 1-Oct-2005 [1727x2] | I know it comes from Jaime's group :-) Just trying to figure out, what in particular BEER is. I read about BEEP it is based upon, but I don't understand its architecture fully. And how does it fit LNS - is it a competition to LNS? Or just LNS can be used upon BEER transport mechanisms? |
.... looking at your app - so you switched to RebGUI already? | |
Graham 1-Oct-2005 [1729] | Their LNS implementation uses BEER for authentication, encryption, and transport. |
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