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[!Uniserve] Creating Uniserve processes
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Graham 29-Jan-2007 [421x3] | there are windows utilities to see what ports are opened and by what. |
netstat will tell you that 80 is open | |
try this http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/utilities/TcpView.mspx | |
Pekr 29-Jan-2007 [424] | netstat -an |
Mchean 29-Jan-2007 [425x4] | i found this also on a suggestion from a friend: http://www.hijackfree.de/en/ |
It turns out I have a inetinfo service running which locks that port. Its used in IIS but since I'm not running it I'm not sure what is using this process, and killing it doesn't work, as it keeps coming back. I will have to investigate using another port | |
scary how many open ports i have for processes i can't id | |
I figured out how to stop the service tying up the 80 port , When i run this is what I get: >> do %/c/temp/rebol/uniserve/uni-engine.r == true >> uniserve/boot [uniserve] Async Protocol Admin loaded [uniserve] Async Protocol DNS loaded [uniserve] Async Protocol FastCGI loaded [uniserve] Async Protocol HTTP loaded ** Script Error: change expected series argument of type: series port ** Where: install-plugin ** Near: change pos/2 new | |
Graham 29-Jan-2007 [429] | does the binary work for you? |
Mchean 29-Jan-2007 [430] | yes, i think im making progress thanks for the help |
Oldes 30-Jan-2007 [431x2] | do you really need all the protocols? If not, you can start uniserve using this way: do %uni-engine.r uniserve/verbose: 5 uniserve/boot/no-loop/with [ protocols [irc] services [flashd task-master httpd] ] ;do whatever here do-events |
And if you are using the Uniserve from the link above, you should know, that it's just a shapshot from doc's folder so you have to for example edit some files - for example the default prefs of the HTTPd as they are leading into files which don't exists. | |
Mchean 30-Jan-2007 [433x3] | Not really, just trying to get the out-of-box experience |
hmm... maybe that's not a good expectation then | |
my purpose is to educate myself about servers using Uniserve as a starting point | |
Oldes 30-Jan-2007 [436x3] | just go to services/HTTPd.r file and edit the prefs |
you can also change the port you are listening - for example to 8080 | |
the file is probably not in the best shape as there are some probes which are probably because of debugging which was Doc making at the moment when he gave it here | |
Mchean 30-Jan-2007 [439] | ok thanks - do you think Rugby might be a better choice? |
Oldes 30-Jan-2007 [440] | I don't know, I never used Rugby and don't know what you want to do:) |
Mchean 30-Jan-2007 [441] | just a learning tool |
Oldes 30-Jan-2007 [442x2] | what kind of learning? |
I started with uniserve 0.9.9 which is stable enough for me. | |
Mchean 30-Jan-2007 [444] | to learn about web servers, and rebol commands |
Oldes 30-Jan-2007 [445x2] | I'm not sure if you should not start with some older server which are not async |
for example with this one http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=webserv.r | |
Mchean 30-Jan-2007 [447] | thanks - i will look at that |
Oldes 30-Jan-2007 [448] | And there is another bug in the UniServe0919 - there should be this in the file %services/task-master/task-handler.r (the [not value?] check is not enough): if any [not value? 'uniserve-path none? uniserve-path] [uniserve-path: what-dir] if any [not value? 'modules-path none? modules-path] [modules-path: dirize uniserve-path/modules] if any [not value? 'uniserve-port none? uniserve-port] [uniserve-port: 9799] |
Graham 30-Jan-2007 [449] | Oldes, why don't you release a fixed version ? |
Oldes 30-Jan-2007 [450x2] | I just started:) |
and still have some problems... | |
Pekr 30-Jan-2007 [452x3] | That all sounds really strange, as Doc was claiming they use Uniserve in production for several customers or so, for quite some time ... |
Oldes - what does your task master fix fixes particularly? | |
Mchean - In the past I really loved Rugby - if you want to start with something, and learn something (RPC), it is really a good choice (Rugby). Very simple to use. What I did not liked was - its lack of asynchronicity. E.g. in Rugby you select your function of exported (so callable over the tcp/ip network). But if such function does something for 10secs, then all Rugby is blocked and it is not able to accept further requests. | |
Oldes 30-Jan-2007 [455] | Pekr: I'm using uniserve as well for some time, but version 0.9.9 I found some time to look at the version 0.9.19 now so I'm examining it, and must say, that's just a quick pack of some files. |
Pekr 30-Jan-2007 [456x2] | Maarten later on introduced so called "green threading" (?), so you can divide your exposed function functionality in several or many parts, to get better granularity. Then he introduced chaining- so that e.g. main Rugby process could become kind of proxy, and forward (chain) request to other instance. But then there were some problems iirc and Maarten left its development. |
Uniserve is imo kind of engine we SHOULD adapt and include in the core. In the case of R3, using native R3 tasking ... | |
Oldes 30-Jan-2007 [458x2] | And don't forget, that Chayenne is made on Uniserve, it will be probably some more uptodate version:-) |
Pekr: and if you need to process something which will take 10secs, Uniserve should be good in that. | |
Pekr 30-Jan-2007 [460] | yes, but its session support sucks. I really don't understand, how Doc could release it, as it miserably fails. Have you tried multiple pane demo? |
Oldes 30-Jan-2007 [461] | At least I use it for such a scenario, which takes more than 10secs to process |
Pekr 30-Jan-2007 [462] | Later on he told me session handling is going to be rewriten, but then he left scene for another few months probably :-) |
Oldes 30-Jan-2007 [463x2] | it's not realease |
he just gave us some sources to play with | |
Pekr 30-Jan-2007 [465] | I tried to contact him few days ago, and asked him for some more recent version. I somehow believe, that if he really uses it for his own stuff, he has to have some things fixed already :-) |
Oldes 30-Jan-2007 [466] | Yes, the most recent version is newer httpd service which is called Cheynne :) |
Pekr 30-Jan-2007 [467] | and do we have access to that httpd source? Cheyenne is encapped, no? |
Oldes 30-Jan-2007 [468x3] | Yes, the encapped part is the httpd service. You can see, that in Cheynne archive there is a little bit newer uniserve engine - 0.9.20 |
(not just httpd as it is able to do for example bzip2 compression so it probably needs some libs) | |
ech.. no, the compression should be in version 1.0 | |
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