World: r3wp
[!RebGUI] A lightweight alternative to VID
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amacleod 13-Dec-2007 [7020x6] | \nhn |
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Steeve 13-Dec-2007 [7026] | good try amacleod :-)))) |
amacleod 13-Dec-2007 [7027] | That was hr.. again |
BrianH 13-Dec-2007 [7028] | Fall asleep on your keyboard? |
amacleod 13-Dec-2007 [7029] | hr = Jr. |
Steeve 13-Dec-2007 [7030] | i was afraid that it was the new unicode support for R3 |
GiuseppeC 13-Dec-2007 [7031x2] | Yes, Jr. attemps to get unicode out of R3 ! |
:-) | |
Ashley 13-Dec-2007 [7033] | someone told me that I can't use RebGUI and LIST-VIEW in the same project in 2 different windows. They were wrong: do %rebgui.r do %list-view.r display "" [ text-list data [a b c] button [ view/new layout [ list-view with [ data: [a b c] ] ] ] ] do-events |
GiuseppeC 13-Dec-2007 [7034] | Henrick told me so, I supposed it was the programmer of LIST-VIEW. |
amacleod 13-Dec-2007 [7035] | He meant in the same window I believe |
GiuseppeC 13-Dec-2007 [7036] | Here it is what he has written: HENRIK: I don't think it can when using when using RebGUI, but I honestly don't know if you can mix VID and RebGUI windows. LIST-VIEW only works with VID. |
Steeve 13-Dec-2007 [7037] | and in separated contexts ? |
BrianH 13-Dec-2007 [7038] | RebGUI redefines many words that are used by VID, afaik. They don't play well together - RebGUI is more of a replacement. |
Ashley 13-Dec-2007 [7039] | The only words that RebGUI redefines are some of the request- functions; and the 3rd last line of %rebgui-ctx.r does the following: system/view/screen-face/feel: none which disables the global events system (used by insert-event-func) ... so yes, RebGUI and VID can run side-by-side; which for scripts run from the console is OK, but for encap stuff is a bit redundant (having to encap VID and RebGUI source). RebGUI was designed as a replacement for VID *in encapped apps*. |
Luis 13-Dec-2007 [7040] | list-view in rebgui: rebol [] do %rebgui.r do %list-view.r display "" [ text-list data [a b c] b: box 50x50 sky button [] ] view/new layout [ lv: list-view with [ data: [a b c]]] unview b/pane: lv b/pane/offset: 0x0 show b do-events |
GiuseppeC 14-Dec-2007 [7041] | Ashley, please confirm what I am understandig: when I will release a commercial application I will have to include VID, RebGUI, LIST-VIEW source (and SQL-Lite one) inside the application but everything will work flawlessy. |
Pekr 14-Dec-2007 [7042x2] | I think so ... |
... except bugs in your own code :-) | |
GiuseppeC 14-Dec-2007 [7044] | I am sure there will be lots of bugs in my own code ! |
Pekr 14-Dec-2007 [7045x2] | iv that view/new ... unview phase needed? Isn't using layout enough to get similar result? |
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Luis 14-Dec-2007 [7047] | Yes, view/new... unview is not needed |
GiuseppeC 14-Dec-2007 [7048] | I will be rich tanks to Rebol, I am sure ! |
Ashley 14-Dec-2007 [7049x2] | Uploaded build#105 with new vid widget which supports in-line VID styles: USAGE: vid 20x20 data [btn] vid data [btn 20x20] options [size] DESCRIPTION: A container for a VID style. OPTIONS: 'size use VID style size. |
So, to use list-view as an example, you can now write: do %list-view.r display "" [ area 60x40 vid 60x40 data [list-view with [data: [a b c]]] ] Magic, huh? | |
Steeve 14-Dec-2007 [7051x2] | why did u not use the layout keyword ? |
just a question | |
Ashley 14-Dec-2007 [7053] | vid is shorter, also layout is a verb and could cause confusion. The other word I was thinking of using was 'style ... which has the side benefit of suggesting "insert a single VID style here" (i.e. 'vid and 'layout encorage you to think in terms of a block of styles). Still open to opinion/suggestions on this one |
Henrik 15-Dec-2007 [7054] | LIST-VIEW uses the LAYOUT keyword to generate row faces at least for edit fields, possibly other places (don't have the source right here). Try adding: vid 60x40 data [list-view with [data: [a b c] editable?: true]] and double click to edit |
amacleod 15-Dec-2007 [7055] | Where do you find the latest version. I tried the website and rebol desktop demo but both are older versions |
Graham 15-Dec-2007 [7056x2] | use an svn client |
details are on Ashley's website on how to use an svn client to download the latest sources | |
Ashley 16-Dec-2007 [7058] | http://trac.geekisp.com/rebgui |
Kai 17-Dec-2007 [7059] | Ashley ~ contratry to what you state in the User Guide, multiple returns do not seem to work at all - can you confirm tthis? Anything I am missing? |
Ashley 17-Dec-2007 [7060] | Good spot, the documentation is incorrect. |
Robert 18-Dec-2007 [7061] | Or the code? |
Kai 18-Dec-2007 [7062] | Ashley - what is the method of choice to temporarily disable/re-enable input widgets (fields, drop-lists, checks) in code ? Disable as in: do not allow focus or content manipulation. |
Ashley 18-Dec-2007 [7063] | There isn't. These things are set when the widget is created. In the rare cases I've had to do this I just unview and redisplay ... not elegant but it works. |
Graham 18-Dec-2007 [7064x3] | I just put widgets I need to disable into a sep panel and just hide the whole panel |
or, just hide a set of widgets as needed | |
ghosting is not possible ... is it better? who knows | |
btiffin 18-Dec-2007 [7067] | Umm, re disable; Doesn't on-focus [false] do what Kaj wants here - kinda - mostly? The widget is still on screen but you can't click on or tab to it. |
Graham 18-Dec-2007 [7068] | I think it's preferable to have some type of visual clue that the behaviour has changed. |
btiffin 18-Dec-2007 [7069] | The code that determines true/false focus could also change the color perhaps. But on-focus does not write-protect the contents from code re the "content manipulation' part, so you'd need to write a modifier layer (and promise yourself to not use direct access ... ever) that also honoured the focus flag. Being me, I probably didn't think up and down the affect chain, but I use the on-focus for user entered key fields. Once set and verified ok you can't enter the field anymore (with the background color change). I played with on-unfocus locking but found the behaviour of getting stuck in a field as too irritating so that logic had to move to become an extra step in another func. Umm, not a dis or anything Ashley; on-unfocus is just one of those features I'd need a strong reason to include in a user interface - nice that it is there and all. :) |
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