World: r3wp

found out how it works now.

http://rebol.hmkdesign.dk/hmkrebgui.zip

this is not a part of the official distribution or the SVN repository.

I try to download it now ... what is different there?

only the button

I'll do one at a time and have you review it

it would be enough to post button.r, no?

it would, but I thought it might be confusing?

in that case http://rebol.hmkdesign.dk/rebgui/button.r

henrik - on buttons tab - can you see hilite effect for the most 
left button?

no, I wondered if that is on purpose? Didn't check the source for 
tour.r

imo, and just really imo, button should be the same "size" (height) 
as tabs, no?

there's something I forgot for that "Info" button, will fix for next 
release.

it clearly can be seen in Calendar widget imo

I'd redesign that widget later to use completely square buttons.

dumped the 3D groove, which simplified the draw block somewhat

button.r updated

I can see very small problem with hiliting, but that might be deeper 
rebol bug? Go to requestors, try to select some date ... the button 
stays hilited, unless you move mouse over it once again ...

I see your bug and raise you one fix. :-) (I think it's a poker term)

:-)

early field.r uploaded. have to go out for a bit...

ok ...

field.r improved a bit.

Interesting to see those old styles :)

field.r updated again. working a bit on password now.

password.r uploaded

its funny cause through all those years of working on glayout, I 
never really took the time work on the actual aesthetics, that was 
not the point of GLayout... and since its built over VID... well 
we can effectively rework all and reuse most VID styles.


  somehow, I find, with the looks derived from henrik's previous tests, 
  where very close to what I would have done myself (hehe henrik and 
  I have to meet at devcon... I think we'd have much in common) Glayout 
  has found itself a simple yet elegant look.  The latest version have 
  started to work a bit more towards looks, and now the highlight is 
  used throughout, so one can change one line and switch  the default 
  golden color to anyone... I'm trying out grey blue these days.

sorry to cut in... but you where all talking about a subject I like 
so much.  I wish I had more time to make GLayout flashy... alas, 
like Anton, I work more on the the actual featureset and api, allowing 
anyone a vast array of tools he can reuse in his styles...

(end of involuntary GLayout intrusion  ;-)

Henrik - nice, although I don't understand what you are upto with 
fields/password-fields. The thing is a bit tricky. Overall, I started 
to like field with thin borders (not like ugly VID ones with border 
of 2x2, that is just so old-days)

But, imo, if you want to change fields, it should be on pair with 
drop-downs etc., which do use field too ... and if you put fields 
into tab, group-box, those would need change too imo ...

btw - I like Cyphre's fading group-box styling - http://www.xidys.com/cyphre-styles.jpg.
That fade-out should be possible with new draw even more. And maybe 
it could be used even for your field effect :-)

but OK, your button is definitely better than initial Ashley's attempt. 
Well, IMO, but I think most would agree here? I will let you adapt 
further some styles and let's see how feel of RebGUI changes in  
general ...

small glitch - go to Grouping\Panel .... resize the screen to make 
it wider. Name field gets strange color problem ...

yes, I noticed. I forgot whether the field was originally supposed 
to stretch there?

field.r updated with a slightly better defined edge

hmm, I work on rather old notebook right now, but the top border 
is much darker than other sides of the field, making the almost invisible 
to me ...

ok, do you have a bright background? does it look better on a medium 
gray?

I would finish button first - making it taller few pixels? Then move 
on to tabs maybe .... group box and panel - do you like them rounded? 
I am not sure what my own answer is :-)

Henrik - if I look into grouping\panel, then field looks nice on 
the cyan background ...

I think I'll leave button for now, because I don't really know what 
else to add to it yet. I will probably go around all elements over 
time and when I reach the last one, I'll start going over them again 
for more polish.

I also feel like doing a bitmapped theme. It's easier to do.

yes, overall I like the button. It is just that I agreed with you, 
that it should be probably a bit taller :-)

button is now a bit deeper than before causing visual problems.

Also, if you try and change the button color in tour.r, it remains 
quite dark gray.

Ashley, what do you think of Henrik's buttons/fields ?

I like Henrik's buttons better, maybe just coloring could be a bit 
more "mild"(?), so that blue is not actually so much blue etc. :-)

Pekr, that's a bit of a dilemma, since tour.r just makes example 
buttons. If you want to create esthetically pleasing buttons, don't 
use primary colors. The point is really that you can if you want 
to. I don't personally really like that you are not able to create 
buttons in exactly the color you want with BTN in VID.

that might be valid point, Henrik ...

not being able to use exactly the color you want, could cause problems 
if you are trying to match a specific color in the background of 
your GUI.