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nicer

nicer ... but buttons should be taller imo :-)

yes they should. I altered the size to 20 pixels but it had no effect?

I am not just proponent of "full colors". If I say - button red, 
I don't really mean "full red" :-) I like a bit more mild coloring 
...

yes. OTOH, you have full control over the button color. VID standard 
BTN does some contrast reduction, so a red button appears pale red.

... that's the same as with view layout [button 100 red "first" btn 
100 red "second"]

but those gradients and shapes look definitely better to me ...

with a more consistent look, the buttons will appear even better.

what do you mean by "more consistent look"? Overall refactoring of 
RebGUI? Hmm, maybe Henrik needs to be put on contract for one week, 
to change default coloring and styling, to make RebGUI more attractive 
:-)

Have you seen Network Detective?

pekr, I mean that buttons that look really good in one context may 
look like crap in a diffferent context. The buttons look overall 
rather bland against the cream colored background. A darker gray 
would emphasize the buttons more. It all distracts the balance of 
the look if the colors are disjointed and obscure certain features 
in the buttons.

yes

contract? well, yes, I could use the money. :-)

:-)

but I'm no fan of the Luna XP look

I am not either ... in fact I held way too long off from rebgui, 
becuse it looks dull, much worse than default VID

e.g. - some time ago I did this comparison - http://www.xidys.com/btn-comparison.jpg

I voted for 1.3 to have Chris look - on the left side. You can also 
see default XP look, and current 1.3

cyphre styles - http://www.xidys.com/cyphre-styles.jpg- the design 
works, maybe because of darker background. I will try in the evening, 
to put tabs not on the dark background directly, but first in the 
group box ....

yes, it's harder to do nice looking buttons against a bright background.

otoh - tab completly fails on dark background. There is only few 
pixel visual space between tabs - try to run demo and set dark grey/blue/black 
background. It does not feel good ...

INIT is a little odd here. It seems to be set to NONE after the face 
has been initialized.

found out how it works now.

http://rebol.hmkdesign.dk/hmkrebgui.zip

this is not a part of the official distribution or the SVN repository.

I try to download it now ... what is different there?

only the button

I'll do one at a time and have you review it

it would be enough to post button.r, no?

it would, but I thought it might be confusing?

in that case http://rebol.hmkdesign.dk/rebgui/button.r

henrik - on buttons tab - can you see hilite effect for the most 
left button?

no, I wondered if that is on purpose? Didn't check the source for 
tour.r

imo, and just really imo, button should be the same "size" (height) 
as tabs, no?

there's something I forgot for that "Info" button, will fix for next 
release.

it clearly can be seen in Calendar widget imo

I'd redesign that widget later to use completely square buttons.

dumped the 3D groove, which simplified the draw block somewhat

button.r updated

I can see very small problem with hiliting, but that might be deeper 
rebol bug? Go to requestors, try to select some date ... the button 
stays hilited, unless you move mouse over it once again ...

I see your bug and raise you one fix. :-) (I think it's a poker term)

:-)

early field.r uploaded. have to go out for a bit...

ok ...

field.r improved a bit.

Interesting to see those old styles :)

field.r updated again. working a bit on password now.

password.r uploaded

its funny cause through all those years of working on glayout, I 
never really took the time work on the actual aesthetics, that was 
not the point of GLayout... and since its built over VID... well 
we can effectively rework all and reuse most VID styles.


  somehow, I find, with the looks derived from henrik's previous tests, 
  where very close to what I would have done myself (hehe henrik and 
  I have to meet at devcon... I think we'd have much in common) Glayout 
  has found itself a simple yet elegant look.  The latest version have 
  started to work a bit more towards looks, and now the highlight is 
  used throughout, so one can change one line and switch  the default 
  golden color to anyone... I'm trying out grey blue these days.

sorry to cut in... but you where all talking about a subject I like 
so much.  I wish I had more time to make GLayout flashy... alas, 
like Anton, I work more on the the actual featureset and api, allowing 
anyone a vast array of tools he can reuse in his styles...