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[!RebGUI] A lightweight alternative to VID
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Anton 11-Jul-2006 [4381x2] | Doc updated. http://home.wilddsl.net.au/anton/rebol/doc/create-a-rebgui-widget.html |
See the problems caused by documentation ? *See* ! ? | |
Henrik 11-Jul-2006 [4383] | documentation is vital, however, at least there *is* documentation. :-) |
Anton 11-Jul-2006 [4384] | No... *source* is vital. Documentation is a mere reflection. |
Pekr 11-Jul-2006 [4385] | Anton - are you sure? :-) I just looked lately at the source, and there seems to be one param -inbound, or outbound, for drop-list .... inbound is set by default. Separate window - why? We have show-popup ... |
Anton 11-Jul-2006 [4386] | Pretty sure, unless I misunderstand you (I didn't look at the source). How can a rebol/view face hang over the edge, overlapping its parent window ? |
Pekr 11-Jul-2006 [4387] | maybe it can? |
Anton 11-Jul-2006 [4388x4] | It would not be *in* the window, then. It would have to be a new window or layer of some kind, supplied by the OS. |
(rebol would have to get the new layer from the OS so it could do that.) | |
I've made a pop-menu which uses borderless windows. It works on WinXP but the problem is we can't guarantee that windows on other platforms don't have forced decorations on their windows. | |
so each menu level would look less like a menu and more like a window. | |
Pekr 11-Jul-2006 [4392] | but we have working examples of menu/context menu, which look awesome .... |
Anton 11-Jul-2006 [4393] | So you're just saying you'd like the drop-list to also use borderless windows in its implementation. |
Graham 11-Jul-2006 [4394] | This is a problem with drop lists. I thought though that this was one problem Cyphre was tackling |
Pekr 11-Jul-2006 [4395x3] | uh, the Trac is really a stupid system .... damned, where have we moved? Can this system produce some simplistic way of how to get particular widget source? Without line numbering? That is just crazy .... |
uf, there is, at the very bottom ... that system is pretty denerving for normal typical user, who is not a developer, and can't get easily to source of widgets, as rebgui.r comes in despaced version ... | |
hmm, you are probably right, Anton ... just downloaded drop-list.r, changed 'inline to 'outline, but nothing changed, it can't go outside the parent window ... (which is maybe logical, as everything lives in screen-face/app-window/pane .... unless show-popup does not allow for other modes ... | |
Anton 11-Jul-2006 [4398] | If it is within a window face it can't go outside, with rebol/view system as it is currently. |
Pekr 11-Jul-2006 [4399] | hmm, and if it would be put in screen face directly? |
Graham 11-Jul-2006 [4400] | Pekr, the trac system is for developers!! |
Pekr 11-Jul-2006 [4401x3] | I know ... but users are almost forgotten .... I would welcome if widgets would still come (be downloaded by get-rebgui) in separate dir ... from time to time it is educative to look at the source |
that possibility was removed ... and rebgui.r comes despaced, so source code is ruined | |
what is the metrics for box? :-) I thought it is too tall, so I ended up putting box 20x1, and it definitely does not seem like 1 pixel? :-) Is it affected by unit size? | |
Graham 11-Jul-2006 [4404x4] | ** Script Error: max expected value1 argument of type: number pair char money date time tuple series ** Where: action ** Near: view*/caret: offset-to-caret parent-face min max ** Press enter to quit... |
more area problems... | |
I was updating an area field ... | |
Work round by clear-text on the area field before updating it. | |
JaimeVargas 11-Jul-2006 [4408x6] | Pekr, what is so difficult about browsing the source. The particular code you are interested in is at http://trac.geekisp.com/rebgui/browser/widgets/drop-list.r |
All that long message before the code is the notes of the comments sent by the creator when commiting the code. So that other developers understand his work. | |
All the code is available from thhis URL. | |
http://trac.geekisp.com/rebgui/browser | |
And there are some widgets wo/. comments like http://trac.geekisp.com/rebgui/browser/widgets/bar.r | |
So, I will think that trac is not stupid is actually very easy an useful. | |
Graham 11-Jul-2006 [4414x4] | I suspect it is just intimidating when you use it without reading the docs |
Got this error again ! third time now, and this was a screen with 2 fields, and a couple of buttons | |
** Where: into-widget ** Near: unless find [object! block!] type?/word get ** Press enter to quit... | |
stack overflow ... | |
Ingo 12-Jul-2006 [4418x2] | Referencing Henriks message in Ann-Reply "I need a way to show a sub-layout" and my own from 26-jun-2006 This is another point that the way 'display works is sub-optimal: When building a gui we need 3 actions: layout, display, event-handling. Having these 3 as distinct actions works well. Having 1 action for layout and 1 other for display and start of event-handling works. BUT having 1 action for layout AND display doesn't make sense. Because you can't build sub-layouts, and you are stuck with a displayed but non-functional window after this step. |
That said, Henrik, have you tried ctx-rebgui/layout ? | |
Henrik 12-Jul-2006 [4420] | Ingo, no I haven't. I looked through the 'display source, but could not find the context of the layout function. If this is right, then thanks. :-) |
Graham 12-Jul-2006 [4421x3] | Ashley, is there a way we can halt the recursion before it causes a stack overflow? |
I thought there was supposed to be a switch in display to allow you to construct a layout without viewing it. | |
If not, it should be easy to add. | |
Normand 12-Jul-2006 [4424x2] | ] [ |
Sorry, AltMe became the active window when I was typing code elsewhere. Better to shut it down. Bye. | |
Pekr 12-Jul-2006 [4426] | Anton - today I consulted with Cyphre, and it is really how I thought about it - drop-list, and its inside/outside argument really allows you to have the drop-list to go beyond the border of parent app. The case is, that there is simply a bug, which Cyphre nearly fixed (hilite stopped working) |
Anton 12-Jul-2006 [4427] | Ah, sorry, I interpreted your initial comment poorly. My apologies. |
Pekr 12-Jul-2006 [4428x3] | Anton - that is absolutly ok :-) |
guys, I would like to open some UI look chat .... not much, but a bit.... Cyphre will look for me to do some slight improvements, e.g. to allow gradients for tabs, etc. | |
Is there anyone else who thinks, that rounded tabs do not work? As well as rounded buttons? While we tried to stay WinXP look compatible as much as possible, in some situations, rounded buttons do not work - try to change tour.r background color to any of darker colors - those tabs look more like a leak, than real shape - simply disturbing a bit. I have such reaction independently confirmed by Bobik, and my brother objected too, without telling him what to judge .... | |
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