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[!RebGUI] A lightweight alternative to VID
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BrianH 22-May-2006 [3759] | It's in the registry, and expressed as an environment variable APPDATA as well. |
Anton 22-May-2006 [3760x2] | It gets it from view-root, which is the public sandbox directory, used by path-thru etc. as usual. |
Yes, view-root gets its value from the registry. | |
Graham 22-May-2006 [3762] | Is there a no-wrap option for area? |
BrianH 22-May-2006 [3763] | At install time, the initial default value of view-root is set to %APPDATA%\REBOL |
Anton 22-May-2006 [3764x2] | Pekr, was there no error message ? or was "Downloading manifest ==> OK" the last line of output ? |
Ashley, can you add get-rebgui.r into SVN as well ? | |
Pekr 22-May-2006 [3766x2] | ah, so .... so actually you can't know, if user has installed View or not .... but it should not mind .... maybe small check then would cure the situation? if view-root does not exist, create it ... |
last line output ... no error .... | |
BrianH 22-May-2006 [3768] | The other trick is telling whether a specific user has View set up on a multiuser system. There are still some multiuser-unfriendly bugs in the REBOL/View installer, mostly for backwards compatibility with View 1.2 registry settings. At least the file handling has been made multiuser safe - we'll see if REBOL 3 solves the rest of the problems. |
Pekr 22-May-2006 [3769] | the problems were described ... in general we should be able to have choice to install for a) all users b) one particular user .... and with uninstall to a) keep private data b) remove data .... uninstall is flawed though, as when you uninstall, the icon is removed from control panel and other user has no option to uninstall ... or you remove the rebol even when other user did not agree to :-) |
BrianH 22-May-2006 [3770] | The main problem is where in the registry REBOL stores its settings. There are per-user settings and per-machine settings, and REBOL stores many of both in the wrong places in the registry. The details of this are once again off topic, though. |
Anton 22-May-2006 [3771x3] | Pekr, try running the script again. Are you launching it like this? |
do http://www.dobeash.com/get-rebgui.r | |
By the way, Ashley, I think get-rebgui.r should be moved into RebGUI/ directory so everything is self-contained. It's not going to affect the end user, since they don't download it. | |
Ashley 22-May-2006 [3774] | can you add get-rebgui.r into SVN ... done should be moved into RebGUI/ directory ... on the list |
Pekr 22-May-2006 [3775] | Anton - posted to Bobik, I will let you know ... |
Anton 22-May-2006 [3776] | Thankyou Ashley. |
Graham 22-May-2006 [3777] | Robert, is the tree widget you've asked Cyphre to create near completion yet? I think maybe it might be useful for the request-directory widget. |
Ashley 22-May-2006 [3778] | I'll second that. |
Thør 22-May-2006 [3779] | . |
Graham 23-May-2006 [3780] | A mind blank here ... what am I doing wrong ? >> do %rebgui.r Script: "Untitled" (none) >> i: load %skype.png == make image! [21x21 #{ FBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFB FBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBF... >> display "" [ image i ] ** Script Error: Cannot use path on none! value ** Where: init ** Near: size/x: image/size/x |
Anton 23-May-2006 [3781] | image data i ? |
Graham 23-May-2006 [3782] | nope |
Anton 23-May-2006 [3783] | display "" compose [image (logo.gif)] |
Graham 23-May-2006 [3784] | works .. why should it need compose ? |
Anton 23-May-2006 [3785] | That's rebgui - |
Graham 23-May-2006 [3786] | the docs need changing then? |
Anton 23-May-2006 [3787] | you tell me. |
Graham 23-May-2006 [3788] | Yes, needs updating. |
Ashley 23-May-2006 [3789] | display "" [image %skype.png] also works http://trac.geekisp.com/rebgui/wiki/WidgetList#imageis pretty clear (needs a file! or image! *not* a word!) |
Graham 23-May-2006 [3790x2] | Hmm. i, in the above example, is of type image! |
How about creating an examples directory, and link to that for each widget? This would remove any confusion that others may also have. | |
Ashley 23-May-2006 [3792] | Probably better to provide a small example under each widget description. Updated the above Wiki entry. How about that? |
Graham 23-May-2006 [3793] | It might be cleaner to do it the way I suggested, but anything that illuminates helps :) |
Ashley 25-May-2006 [3794] | Latest SVN change (Rev#16) now uses reduce/only to evaluate words / paths without the need for compose. This allows code like: display "" [ image i bar my-width field my-data/field1 ... ] to be written. It still does not allow inline expressions like: display "" [ text my-width - 3 form now/date text (my-width - 3) (form now/date) ] although I'm working on adding support for the later(parenthesized) form. As a side note, this is a bit of a shift in my position. I used to be of the opinion that explicit declaration via compose was more efficient than implicit declaration; but it turns out to be less efficient in a number of ways: Coding: requires extensive use of compose/deep and parenthesis Obviousness: it's not obvious why code like "image my-image" doesn't work Complexity: forcing use of compose/deep makes it harder to write action blocks inline [that need themselves to use compose] Familiarity: It's not the way VID or other dialects work Speed: compose/deep is actually slower than reduce/only and a few subsequent parenthesis reductions You can thank Graham's comments above as the catalyst to change. ;) |
Graham 25-May-2006 [3795x4] | Ahhhggg... |
I hope this doesn't require extensive changing of my code. | |
I think it does ... | |
I presume I can still keep using display "" compose/deep [ date: field (date-width) ] | |
Ashley 25-May-2006 [3799] | Change has no effect on current display code and does not impact the use of compose/deep. It merely *allows* you to write: display "" compose/deep [date: field (date-width) ] as: display "" [date: field date-width] |
Anton 25-May-2006 [3800] | Ashley, I think it is a bad idea to use reduce/only in this context. It was basically designed for the draw dialect, so it disallows function and expression evaluations. I would recommend just processing the layout dialect similar to the way VID layout does it. |
Ashley 25-May-2006 [3801] | Why? The main dialect parser of RebGUI can now be expressed in one simple parse construct: parse reduce/only spec words [ any [ opt [... evaluate () to return a REBOL value...] [ parse rules to handle REBOL values ... ] ] ] compared to the relatively complex parsing logic in VID (which, to be fair, has to handle styles amongst other things). The main functional difference between what this allows in VID and RebGUI is that you don't need to parenthesize your expressions in VID (and I kind of like the idea of having to parenthesize them anyway, it makes expressions stand out just like they do in compose). Having said that, if someone can show me a RebGUI parser built along the lines of VID that is clean and lean I'll willing to be convinced otherwise. ;) |
Anton 25-May-2006 [3802] | Mmm.. ok. Let's see how it goes. |
Ashley 25-May-2006 [3803] | Latest SVN change (Rev#17) now evaluates parenthesis without the need for compose. This allows code like: display "" [ text (my-width + 50) (form now/date) ] and the following widgets now reduce their data block: anim, check-group, led-group, radio-group ... which allows: display "" [ anim data [image-1 image-2] radio-group data [idx "One" "Two"] ] These changes shouldn't impact existing RebGUI apps (i.e. they are backwardly compatible). |
Anton 25-May-2006 [3804] | That's probably more comfortable. |
Thør 26-May-2006 [3805] | . |
Ashley 27-May-2006 [3806] | Couple of minor administrative fixes: - Examples added for every widget in http://trac.geekisp.com/rebgui/wiki/WidgetList - http://www.dobeash.com/RebGUI/display.htmlupdated to reflect latest changes (and have information duplicated in WidgetList removed) - Updated site with latest build and corrected path to: "do http://www.dobeash.com/RebGUI/get-rebgui.r" |
Robert 28-May-2006 [3807x2] | Tree: The code for the tree is mostly complete. Even an API to change the tree at runtime exists. The code isn't splitted out into a standalone tree-widget yet. It's included in the drop-tree widget. |
As we have made several, IMO useful changes to RebGUI, now to submit them? Is there something like a development branch in SVN? Or should I diff the changes and post here or mail Ashley? | |
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