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[!RebGUI] A lightweight alternative to VID
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Anton 18-May-2006 [3636x4] | I see... |
Let me do some tests. | |
Workaround probably just focus the face again. | |
This doesn't happen in VID because clicking outside the face clears the focus. | |
Graham 18-May-2006 [3640] | this is probably the reason why the error occurs. |
Anton 18-May-2006 [3641] | ;These two work: display "" [f: field "hello" button "clear" [clear f/text system/view/caret: none show f]] do-events display "" [f: field "hello" button "clear" [clear f/text ctx-rebgui/edit/focus f]] do-events |
Graham 18-May-2006 [3642x3] | I think i use clear-text |
let me check. | |
yep | |
Anton 18-May-2006 [3645] | display "" [f: field "hello" button "clear" [clear-text/focus f]] do-events |
Graham 18-May-2006 [3646] | ok, I'll try that. |
Anton 18-May-2006 [3647] | I think either: - clear-text should check to see if head face/text and head system/view/caret are the same. If so, then obviously caret needs adjustment. or - edit-text should handle the error, since clear-text is potentially not the only function which can leave the caret inconsistent with face/text. |
Graham 18-May-2006 [3648x2] | Agree. |
with latter. | |
Volker 18-May-2006 [3650] | How to create a RebGUI widget http://www.lexicon.net/antonr/rebol/doc/create-a-rebgui-widget.html sends me to http://w3.eftel.com/home.cms |
Anton 18-May-2006 [3651] | Now available here: http://home.wilddsl.net.au/anton/rebol/doc/create-a-rebgui-widget.html |
Volker 18-May-2006 [3652] | Thanks :) |
Anton 18-May-2006 [3653] | Still works :) |
Pekr 19-May-2006 [3654x2] | guys, did you test get-rebgui on systems without view installed? I was just informed, that it states that downloading manifest OK, but apparently the directory does not exist at all .... |
to hell with installation and system "friendliness" :-) | |
Anton 19-May-2006 [3656] | What version of rebol is it ? |
Volker 19-May-2006 [3657x3] | Hoiw is the svn related to get-rebgui? %tour.r ismissing? |
;bug? if my face is smaller than min-size, it is initially smaller on screen. This works in 'display: ; min-size? if find view-face/options 'resize [ insert tail view-face/options 'min-size insert tail view-face/options either min-size [size] [ view-face/size + switch/default fourth system/version [ 3 [8x34] ; WindowsXP ][ 4x30 ; Others ] ] if view-face/size <> max view-face/size size[ span-resize view-face size - view-face/size view-face/size: max view-face/size size ] | |
No, buggy too. | |
Ashley 19-May-2006 [3660] | How is the svn related to get-rebgui? The SVN is for developers / experienced REBOLers ... it is used to manage individual widget source files. %get-rebgui.r obtains a pre-built distribution (including a merged %rebgui.r, %tour.r, images and demo scripts). It is targeted at 'end users' who don't want to use SVN. %tour.r is missing I want to add it *without* having to also add sample icon images to the SVN. I'll probably just 'inline' the images so it's all in one big file. min-size: read this very carefully: http://www.dobeash.com/RebGUI/display.html#section-2.1.2 The Note says it all: "The min-size limit will only be enforced upon a window resize, and the size is inclusive of an OS specific number of border / title pixels. Also note that if any widgets are resizeable (#H and #W) and min-size has not been specified then RebGUI will assign a default value equal to the initial window size." |
Pekr 20-May-2006 [3661] | Anton - latest version .... but I suggested Bobik to sipmly install rebol and see if it helps .... |
Graham 20-May-2006 [3662] | why would you want to test rebgui without view installed?? |
Pekr 20-May-2006 [3663x4] | Because installation sucks, that is all :-) |
It is very GOOD example, of how some ppl think about rebol - I did not influence Bobik's opinion, yet it was natural for him, to use rebol.exe dropped in the dir of particular app. I used that model too, but gave up and installed View | |
I know that two ppl is not enough as a representative amount of users following some logic, but :-) | |
when I update my View, I risk older apps may not work .... that is why I used that model .... of course we can use -i option, but it was broken with olders releases ... | |
Graham 20-May-2006 [3667] | rebgui is a developer's tool. |
Pekr 20-May-2006 [3668x2] | well, you can always state anything. Being a developer's tool does not tell anything how ppl are using Rebol to develop. I am not comfort with idea of installation, simple as that. I never use double-click to launch my scripts and never will do, untill we get one exe and components (file associations issue). And noone should explicitly tell, how do I use any tool. |
I have my View\RebGui, View\whatever-project subirs. I do like to simply copy on my USB and go. With current aproach, while it follows OS customs, for me it is flawed. I can't even spell easily enough, where tour.r is located. I would welcome some "look-up" function to not care - simply if it is in my sandbox, wherever it is, just run it .... | |
Graham 20-May-2006 [3670] | I think this is off topic for Rebgui. |
Pekr 20-May-2006 [3671x2] | it is, and it is not - If I would not assist Bobik, he would probably give up. Yes, it is his fault to not know view-root, sandbox etc., but it tells something - things should stay easy in the first place. There is more and more apps, which follow copy & run principles - two articles on czech developer's site. And as Steve said - Amen - we give up on our own principles, following the outer world, when outer world is starting to get our ideas ... |
so yes, this is probably off topic, thanks for reminding me. It is always safer and comfort to remind someone that something is off-topic, than actually admint, that there could be some thruth to it. I can see the fear of eventually losing the ground admitting, that current aproach was not all that optimal solution ... whatever .... | |
Graham 20-May-2006 [3673] | There is a View group ... |
Anton 20-May-2006 [3674x4] | Pekr, what version of Rebol is it ? eg.. system/product == ? system/version == ? What was the error message received ? |
Oh I think I see what the problem is. After running get-rebgui.r it's not easy to see where the installation dir is. Well, it's probably in the public cache. This should show you where the files went. | |
list-dir path-thru http://www.dobeash.com/rebgui/ | |
Ashley, don't delay because of icons. SVN can obviously easily handle them and you can always remove them later when you have time. But we need to test the tour against the latest rebgui changes to make sure they're working. | |
Volker 20-May-2006 [3678x6] | - Why not images in svn? AFAIK it can handle that. (download-size?). Would be nice if i could checkout and have the real rebgui-demo after running some build-script. - min-size: it was easy to enforce an initial resize if some dimension is to small. I did that with a small example, area only.See the posted lines (maybe they need to be reversed. I experimented a bit). But it fails with other things. (obviously needs a check for presence of /min-size, but then the sizes dont change right.) |
Pekr, i was confused too. thought you want to extract rebgui without /view, /core only. "not installed" .. :) No directory: I guess it takes the default sandbox without installation, that one it suggest while installing. | |
Multiple views, not installed: i guess you can keep multiple exes and run them. maybe rename them with version. They would share registry-setting, but i dont think they relaunch the installed exe. Although the default rebol for Ü.r would change. | |
With your usb, do you have a private account on the machines? So that you have own registry-settings? | |
sandbox-location: the '*-thru with the url. And you can launch rebol with an url too, it uses sandbox then. (newer feature). | |
Oops, are we are a bit OT here, its not rebuis problem? Was in answer mode. Although, get-rebgui could download to the currenent folder, not the sandbox. Its for developers, but developers need to find the scripts after running it. | |
Robert 20-May-2006 [3684x2] | SVN: Yes, can handle binary files very well. SO let's just add everything required to build a complete developer and end-user distribution of RebGUI. |
Makes keeping everything in sync much simpler. | |
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