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[!RebGUI] A lightweight alternative to VID
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Graham 22-Aug-2005 [1799] | With the text in an edit list highlited, click on the drop down arrow, click on a new item, then tab .. and the above occurs. |
Ashley 22-Aug-2005 [1800] | Thanks, these will be fixed in the next build. I'm assuming that all other issues are resolved as of this build, so if anyone has others (even if previously raised) that have not been addressed then now is the time to raise (or re-raise) them. Please exclude issues relating to the following unfinished widgets: - table - grid - svg-toolbar - icon (SVG-based) - auto-fill - spinner - menu |
Graham 22-Aug-2005 [1801x2] | How about swapping the parameters for splash so that face is first? That makes it consistent with all the other functions. |
Also, how about an accessor function like show-focus: func [ face [object!]][ rebfocus face show face ] | |
Mchean 23-Aug-2005 [1803] | with 3.4 when i run the tour.r i get: Access Error: Cannot open /C/Temp/Rebol View/RebGui/images/logo.png ** Near: image: load %images/logo.png size: image/size |
Graham 23-Aug-2005 [1804x2] | did you download the whole archive first? |
The recent downloads just contain updates and not the images. | |
Luisc 23-Aug-2005 [1806] | It would be nice if those images are included on every release as newbies don't have them. |
Graham 23-Aug-2005 [1807] | Still a beta release .. not a general release. |
Luisc 23-Aug-2005 [1808] | Mchean all you have to do is put a comment ";" at the line and it should work =) |
Graham 23-Aug-2005 [1809] | Other images referred to won't be found either though. |
Luisc 23-Aug-2005 [1810x4] | unfortunatelly you will have to do that on every release until you download those images |
yes i think there are 3 images that need to be " ; " | |
but i think if you download the first beta release it has those images | |
Sorry Mchean by newbies i was referring to me =) | |
Graham 23-Aug-2005 [1814x3] | I guess this is more of a Rebol problem, but alerts don't stay infront of the parent window. |
LEDs don't seem to be working properly in the tour.r And also, you can't tab yet within any of the state widgets | |
Image accepts a file for the image, but not an image type. | |
Graham 24-Aug-2005 [1817] | No action block for fields? |
Ashley 24-Aug-2005 [1818] | Try this: field [show-text face now/time/precise] ; press enter in the field |
Graham 24-Aug-2005 [1819x6] | Hmm. Wonder why mine don't work. |
If you type enough text to start text scrolling, this is what happens >> display "" [ myfield: field 20 [show-text face now/time/precise print face/text] ] do-events 16:50:17.808 ** Script Error: Cannot use path on none! value ** Where: edit-text ** Near: if all [tmp/x < 0 tmp2/x < 0] [face/para/scroll/x: tmp2/x - tmp/x] tmp3: | |
When a window containing a text-list is maximised, the scrollers disappear. | |
from the text-list. | |
I thought I'd have a go at building an application with RebGUI, and I'm starting with an open source electronic medical record. I'm just building the gui first off http://www.compkarori.com/emr/remr.exe http://www.compkarori.com/emr/remr.r Help appreciated :) | |
I'll intend to use Rugby + mysql/postgres unless RT brings out LNS in time. | |
Ashley 24-Aug-2005 [1825] | Good first cut. I''d standardize label / field widths with composed words; eg. window-size: NxN tab-size: window-size - NxN label-width: N field-width: N display "Test" compose [ ... label (label-width) ... field (field-width) ... ... ] This way you can globally experiment with different sizing layouts without too much effort. If you come across anything that would make writing an app even easier (be it a RebGUI usage hint or enhancement request) then be sure to mention it here. Thanks. ;) |
Pekr 24-Aug-2005 [1826x4] | Hi, just few notes .... 1) why new versions are not released as complete ones? The download is small already. I tried to point out my friend to it, and he missed 0.3 version or so, which is required ... 2) box definitely does not resize properly. Still, so far, Romano's system was the most complete and the least errorless version I saw. Try to move resizing window here or there and you will get even cases as three lines of color boxes, no spacing, mixed together ... 3) lists - are we ready to overcome rebol limitation here? It works better, but still not flawlessly and not in system friendly manner: a) when moving "too fast" with mouse, it stays open b) in above and and other cases, ESC shoudl close it c) I understand we have use some "excuses" and workaraound for now, but that is not the way to go in future d) when moving away, it should stay open, last hilited item should stay hilited, close on esc, close on click-away, should be foxusable, ability to be driven by keyboard - that is the only system friendly way 4) text-list multi mode - ctrl works, shift too, ctrl A too, but not in a system friendly way once again. Maybe I should check first, but IIRC, it should work following way - ctrl selects particular items. BUT - it should also deselect them - try ctrl A and then, holding Ctrl, press some item - it does not deselects them - that is imo wrong. Also - shift should mark all items between point of last press and active mouse position, deselecting all the rest, even if previsously selected ... |
scaling - cool! But resizing works a bit strange sometimes, especially if you lower window size under some acceptable limit .... dunno if that one could be automatically calculated or not, but sometimes you get destructed (non-functional) gui | |
... e.g. with text-list, resizing up and down few times, and you get buttons over text-list, the same way bar over text-list, text-list not fully visible even if maximising window .... | |
I have to consider resizing as being too buggy ... maybe it uses some kind of simple mechanism, without features as anchoring etc., dunno, but imo Romano could help here - his system, although large, was pretty much consistent ... | |
Mchean 24-Aug-2005 [1830x2] | Luisc: its ok im a newbie too |
Ashley: got it working thanks | |
Chris 24-Aug-2005 [1832x2] | Ashley, I've also come across the need to use width keywords. I'm still not sure what the best method may be, but I'm leaning toward devising a generic UI grid. At its simplest, it'd be like a 2-cell (four guideline) html table with labels on the left, controls on the right. But this could also broken and repeated across the width of a form, with keywords/parameters used to position elements across the guidelines. This is a thought in progress, unfleshed. |
Somewhat in the mold of a Wordprocessor, but with form elements instead of paragraphs... | |
Graham 24-Aug-2005 [1834x2] | How to clear a field ? This doesn't work without screwing up the text cursor... display "" [ f: field 30 [ show-text f copy "" ]] do-events |
don't mind me...I'm going to ask all the newbie questions so no one else has to! | |
Henrik 24-Aug-2005 [1836x2] | does clear-face <face> work? |
don't mind me... I'm going to post the wrong things in the wrong groups so no one else has to! (sorry) | |
Ashley 24-Aug-2005 [1838] | Graham, display "" [field [show-text face "" rebfocus face]] but wrapping this in a 'clear-face func is the way to go. Thanks, added to the list. |
Graham 24-Aug-2005 [1839x2] | Ahh. so I needed the rebfocus face to set the text cursor correctly. |
Shouldn't that be part of show-text ? If you're going to preset a number of fields eg. to reset some defaults, you don't really want to rebfocus face on each one as well as do a show-text ? | |
Ashley 24-Aug-2005 [1841x2] | Depends. Take the following code: display "" [ a: field "A" b: field "B" c: field "C" button "Clear" [ show-text a "" show-text b "" show-text c "" ] ] Clicking "Clear" first behaves as we expect, but clicking in a field then "Clear" is problematic. The solution, as in VID, is to unfocus whenever soemthing else is clicked on. Added to the list. |
Pekr, the RebGUI resizing model is simple and works well. The "problems" you are now seeing are caused by the fact that the latest build prevents widgets being assigned negative size values (which prevents one class of errors (sporadic crashes) but can cause anomalies when windows are resized below a certain point). RebGUI assumes that if you allow widgets to be resized you will *also* specify a window min-size that can comfortably hold all widgets. The next build will include an updated %tour.r and documentation that addresses this. | |
Volker 24-Aug-2005 [1843] | Could rebgui calculate a minimal size for a layout? |
Ashley 24-Aug-2005 [1844x2] | Go here for a list of all other issues: http://www.dobeash.com/it/rebgui/issues.html |
Volker; difficult as min-size includes OS-specific title-bar and borders, and RebGUI displays can be dynamically extended *after* the window they appear in is displayed (I don't believe that min-size can be changed / reset after the face has been viewed). | |
Volker 24-Aug-2005 [1846] | But you could prevent the layout from beeing smaller, even if not fully visible? Instead of having negative offsets or this 0-thing? |
Ashley 25-Aug-2005 [1847] | Certainly, and indeed that was how it was handled before I "discovered" min-size ... but handling this non-natively (i.e. not via min-size) looks and feels a bit crude as well as being inconsistent with how other [non-REBOL] apps handle resize. |
Volker 25-Aug-2005 [1848] | i would use a combination, window with min-size, but if min-size is smaller than min-layout-size, dont shrink layout further. keeps at least layout intact and user can resize back. |
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