World: r3wp

also, it's not true that you would need to have command already.

you just encap a script like:   forever [do ask ">> "]

and you got /Command for $5.

:-) nice tip :-)

but licence forbids to expose rebol interpreter, so it would be against 
it ...

I just wonder, if SDK is really so expensive fro ppl? I am from CZ, 
we have bad salary to USD/EU ratio, yet I afforded to buy myself 
an SDK ....

petr: exactly, licensing forbids it, and that why you can't have 
an automatic encap service where anyone can submit a script and you 
hand back an exe.

well, that's not really what I would want... all I would need would 
be proper encapping of my small Rebol/View scripts so that friends 
can run them with a single click, which is one of the major gripes 
I have when I need to distribute hobby scripts. They don't want to 
mess with the console or the viewtop (believe me, I tried).


If I were to use functions in my scripts that are /command only, 
the service should not allow encapping of source that contains /command 
functions. This way you'd need to own /command and/or the SDK to 
make /command capable exe's.

IIRC someone posted to ml kind of free encapper :-) It was based 
upon generating of zip archive, containing View interpreter, which 
is free to distribute, plus packed scripts ... that could be an alternative 
way for ppl, no?

Henrik - there are two versions of SDK - /Command and "normal" (without 
command features, just pro ones available), which is cheaper ...

pekr, I thought the difference was /Command and /Pro functions...

yes, that is the difference ...

but you don't get /Command functions for free. that would be the 
trick to get you to buy the SDK as opposed to using an encapping 
service

...and I agree with you, that sometimes ppl don't want to install 
something ... the worst thing is, that in many cases, ppl are behind 
the firewall/proxy, and rebol fails here - blocking like mad....

do you need /Command functions?

if you're just distributing a script to friends, then what about 
just a zip file with view, the script, and a windows link that starts 
view with the script?

inability to freely encap ppl's work (and /Pro key is for nothing 
- you can develop features non pro users can't use ;-) is big obstacle 
imo. That is why I think plug-in might be important product - it 
is about deployment - with plug-in aproach ppl just think that things 
work in one click :-)

yes Gabriele, that might be the way - in fact, someone posted such 
"encapper" link to ml, so that work was already done .... noone responded 
IIRC ....

gabriele, too messy :-) "Do I really need that big R icon on my desktop?" 
It has to be one click to run. Grandma style.

henrik, you don't get any R icon on the desktop the way i described. 
and, as petr says, there are programs around that make the process 
of unzipping and running automatic, so the user only sees one exe.

so you link to an exe file within the zip file? is it not necessary 
to unpack the zip file?

using any of the programs petr talked about, yes. with just a zip, 
you unzip then click on the link.

(i wish Windows had bundles, like OSX :)

Henrik - most of the free utils of archivers allow you to generate 
so called "autoextracting archive"

It HAS to be one click exe to run. No zip files. ah well, I give 
up :-) going back to work :-)

not sure if you can point it then to run some exe inside though ...

I wonder, anyway, how will you send it to your friends? ;-) Most 
of email servers will refuse it because of internal security policy 
- we don't allow to send .exes directly, not even inside .zip archives 
;-)

downloads from webpages...

try this:

http://motoko.rebol.it/test.exe

that's more like it :-)

will it work on read-only devices, such as CD-ROMs?

yep, extracts to temp dir. but this depends on the tool you use (i 
used winrar)

hmm ok

i mean default windows temp dir (like 99% of the installers do)

what's the latest encmd.exe ? Is that from July 2004 ?

If so, is there going to be a public update soon?  I presume that 
one is a beta release

That's the latest one I use officially. There was/is a 2.6 Core beta 
I think, more recent, but not View. A new official SDK is a highly 
requested item.

I use officially
 hmm... what secrets does that imply ? :)

Sorry, no secrets. Just that it's the one I use. I don't use the 
2.6. Core beta encapper for anything official.

Just reading the prerebol specifications.  You can conditionally 
include files for compilation, but can you declare parts of the source 
to be conditionally "compiled" into the exe ?

This one?

(Oops - There was request on "all" for this group)

Graham, conditional works. there is a #if .

volker, I can't see how #if allows me to remove chunks of code that 
I don't want incorporated into the exe

Because if allows you to insert code IIRC. Now if you insert a little 
code or a lot depending on the if?

As I understand it, #if allows me to conditionally evaluate some 
Rebol code, or to include source files into my code.

Yes, insert .. but not remove

Have to look up the doc..

http://www.rebol.com/docs/sdk/prebol.html