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Robert 22-Jan-2005 [85] | Become left-handed and it's solved :-)) |
Carl 22-Jan-2005 [86] | no |
eFishAnt 22-Jan-2005 [87] | The mouse has always been a rather clumsy context shift for the user...;-) |
Carl 22-Jan-2005 [88x2] | either add some btns on left to balance it out |
or take it off | |
eFishAnt 22-Jan-2005 [90] | mouse <--> keyboard is too much of a context shift the way they are at present. |
Robert 22-Jan-2005 [91] | It's really funny, I never had this problem because I have my mouse on the left side of the keyboard. |
Carl 22-Jan-2005 [92] | i did that too for years |
Robert 22-Jan-2005 [93] | One of the very, very rare cases a left-handed person has an advantage... |
Carl 22-Jan-2005 [94x2] | (on tablet - slow) |
must get mic for speech input | |
Robert 22-Jan-2005 [96] | Tablet's (or better all hand recognition) software is something that doesn't work for a left-handed. I write the characters the other way. The SW can't handle it :-)) |
eFishAnt 22-Jan-2005 [97] | tablet IS slower than paper...;-) I forget what I was going to 'write" with the pen in the 4 minutes it takes XP to boot... |
Robert 22-Jan-2005 [98] | So, just one of those very, very common problems... |
eFishAnt 22-Jan-2005 [99] | I tried to train speech on tablet by reading the fairy tale in the XP tablet tools...it never recognized anything I spoke (I know my speech is tough to understand) but even if I said "blah blah blah blah" the tablet acted like it understood me reading the fairy tale. Maybe there is a better version. |
Pekr 22-Jan-2005 [100] | Carl - no laptop has numpad :-) Or those dozens I worked with .... |
eFishAnt 22-Jan-2005 [101] | I call my internet keyboard "The Surf-BoardTM" ... ;-) |
Pekr 22-Jan-2005 [102x2] | In fact - I never found use for additional keyboard buttons as handling sound, player, custom apps launch, sleep and I don't touch mouse if I don't have to .... there must be something strange with me ... |
I even have special keys for cut, copy and paste, but I am used to old way ctrl + particular-button .... | |
eFishAnt 22-Jan-2005 [104] | ah, I have tried some other keyboads, like with the special buttons, the wireless part of WebTV was nice...but for sure we need to have REBOL embedded in a wireless keyboard...that would be nice. |
yeksoon 22-Jan-2005 [105] | just found out that Logitech does have a 'diNovo' but the retail price is on the high side http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/CA/EN,CRID=1,CONTENTID=7321 |
Pekr 22-Jan-2005 [106] | The problem with special keys and its usage is, that I don't want to use such special keys - I do use many PCs actively, notebooks, and once some PC does not have such keys, it slows my process of work ... |
eFishAnt 22-Jan-2005 [107] | yeah, Logitech doesn't get it either...I have read lots of laptop keyboard patents...;-) |
Carl 22-Jan-2005 [108x4] | The problem with many keyboards is that they are not risc-- they need to focus on the most frequent actions . |
this text is being influenced by speech recognition | |
it is a lot faster to input text this way when it comes to things like instant messaging | |
especially when using a tablet that has no keyboard -- that can be a big problem | |
eFishAnt 22-Jan-2005 [112] | IBM has some patents, too... |
Carl 22-Jan-2005 [113] | the raisin on a one to get rid of the number pad is that it makes the keyboard off center |
Pekr 22-Jan-2005 [114] | What do you prefer on notebook - touchpad as a mouse, or that IBM's - how to call it - stick between the keys? |
yeksoon 22-Jan-2005 [115] | IBM thinkpad's keyboard is pretty good... |
eFishAnt 22-Jan-2005 [116] | a Korean contact of mine has tried to penetrate the US market with Tablets for nearly 8 years...and it is still not a winner. |
Carl 22-Jan-2005 [117] | this throws your whole body off center for hours at a time-- this becomes eight more serious problem if you put the keyboard in your lap |
eFishAnt 22-Jan-2005 [118] | eight a speech thing? |
Carl 22-Jan-2005 [119x3] | another problem with modern keyboards is that they are built for the lowest cost not for the best ergonomics |
keyboards are sold at retail prices of between ten to $30.00 | |
that means their manufacturing cost is between five and $15.00 -- so very few companies are motivated to innovate on keyboard design | |
yeksoon 22-Jan-2005 [122] | you can get it 10-30 in Singapore dollars as well (US$1 = SGD$1.63; approx) |
eFishAnt 22-Jan-2005 [123] | I think the Tablet needs 95% graphics operated computing before it becomes a market winner. |
Pekr 22-Jan-2005 [124] | well, even arrows, delete, insert etc. makes it off-center ... but - is that really so big problem? I never thought about it that way ... the only thing I need now is wireless keyboard to have it with me on ma sofa :-) |
Carl 22-Jan-2005 [125] | by a normally use a $60.00 keyboard that has an ergonomic split and is also wireless but the company , logitek has stopped making it -- unfortunately |
eFishAnt 22-Jan-2005 [126] | some of the ergonomics have not yet been worked out by them either...;-) |
yeksoon 22-Jan-2005 [127] | Pekr, you can take a look at IBM Thinkpad's keyboard. They have manage to make it balanced with the arrow keys and stuffs. A lot of the other laptops manufacturers don't get it, even Apple. (and I use Macs as well) |
Carl 22-Jan-2005 [128] | the reason it is a big problem is that when you're sitting in the same place for ten or more hours in a little thing in every little thing will eventually effect you |
eFishAnt 22-Jan-2005 [129] | effect .... Speech? or are you typing? |
Carl 22-Jan-2005 [130] | Microsoft speech recognition really sucks all |
Pekr 22-Jan-2005 [131] | yeksoon - but I hate it ... switching between 3 notebooks each of different brands every of them has arrows, delete, insert etc. keys at different positions .... |
Carl 22-Jan-2005 [132] | yes I am speaking |
yeksoon 22-Jan-2005 [133] | speech is improving..it seems |
Carl 22-Jan-2005 [134] | all all all Microsoft likes adding a lot of other words all all all |
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