World: r3wp

well, even arrows, delete, insert etc. makes it off-center ... but 
- is that really so big problem? I never thought about it that way 
... the only thing I need now is wireless keyboard to have it with 
me on ma sofa :-)

by a normally use a $60.00 keyboard that has an ergonomic split and 
is also wireless but the company , logitek has stopped making it 
-- unfortunately

some of the ergonomics have not yet been worked out by them either...;-)

Pekr, you can take a look at IBM Thinkpad's keyboard. They have manage 
to make it balanced with the arrow keys and stuffs.


A lot of the other laptops manufacturers don't get it, even Apple. 
(and I use Macs as well)

the reason it is a big problem is that when you're sitting in the 
same place for ten or more hours in a little thing in every little 
thing will eventually effect you

effect .... Speech? or are you typing?

Microsoft speech recognition really sucks all

yeksoon - but I hate it ... switching between 3 notebooks each of 
different brands every of them has arrows, delete, insert etc. keys 
at different positions ....

yes I am speaking

speech is improving..it seems

all all all Microsoft likes adding a lot of other words all all all

affect is the right word

I have been using speech recognition off and on as a test case or 
more than twenty years all

Carl, maybe you can create custom speach dialect ... even MS words 
let's you to write your own corrections ... so just link some your 
speach habits and tell app what should it say instead :-)

MS Word

unfortunately all it is not a lot better today than all it was all 
all all all twenty years ago

do you really think I'll use Microsoft word all all

so can you speak a REBOL script into here? Oops forgot, not Messenger 
where do [ view/new layout [ box ] ]  can be done...

no, that was just example ... dunno if speach sw would allow anything 
like that ... so you would teach it to some of your speach patterns 
and tell it how to interpret it ....

let me try all

first let me turn off this bill because it is messing up the speech 
recognition I think that is where the word call is coming from all 
all

doesn't John Ousterhout, Tcl creator, use speech stuffs as well.. 
bcos of RSI problems

we are afraid Carl is imitating Max Headroom...;-)

OK but see if this is better -- I don't know what insane programmer 
decided that you should ring the bell whenever a word is recognized 
by the speech recognition software -- that is about as stupid as 
it gets

then we will have to do it ourselves - speach recognition in REBOL 
:-) But we would either need library, or fast VM/port for fast performance 
... otoh it surely is not easy to do such kind of stuff ...

Pekr...keys in diferrent positions.  I have that problem of swiching 
machines too.

In the ideal world, I'd have one personal keyboard and use it on 
any machine. Without having to do all the unplugging. driver upgrading, 
and rebooting first....eFishAnt can you design the ultimate portable 
keyboard for me!?

that is where that word all was coming from -- two bill gates a ding 
sound has the same sound as the word all

wow...that sounds like a GREAT QUOTE for a WEB PAGE ... LOL

if that is as good as speech recognition gets I think I could do 
better in probably about a month of programming -- I have been thinking 
about this problem for more than two decades -- while at apple computer 
by a push to get speech recognition to be part of every Macintosh 
-- but was unsuccessful

Sunanda - there is already virtual keyboard available, but you need 
clean desk for it ... dunno if it is usable at all, but fits nicely 
PDAs etc. - it is projection technology ...

I have seen that to -- an interesting way to input characters

Seen it too, thanks, Petr......So won't work easily on a train or 
plane.

there are so many keyboard designs that come and go over the years

http://www.virtual-laser-keyboard.com/Products.asp

Designs coming and going .....That's why I'd like to keep the keyboard 
that works for me........But only after I find it.

But then I still use a personal fountain pen rather than utility 
biros.  May be I'm old-fashioned.

I just noticed that we are in the web development room

what we probably need is a weekend chat room

for on topic, we started as keyboards hooked to the Internet / Web...

if they made this text recognition software in little better -- and 
I think they do but it does not come from Microsoft -- it would be 
a good way to communicate in All the old me hold me all the fault 
may

I like Mozilla's Find-as-type facility ... you simply start writing 
word and cursor moves around the screen - F3 - next occurance, enter 
- choose, backspace - back to previous page etc

altme

one marketing thing Microsoft used to dis OS2Warp's integration of 
Speech is that in the office, talking is distractive to others, unless 
all have private offices.

yes very true

Speech recognition make best sense in car and at home.

speech recognition is impossible to use in the car

and rebol may make speech recognition programs confused.

eg. send [steve-:-efish] "lunch appt"

I have tried it

should it launch a program to send the email or should it write the 
code?

yeksoon - inteersting point ....

it is amazing to see the sentence is that speech recognition software 
composes when there is a lot of random noise in the background -- 
as a radio frequency engineer this  is very puzzling-- the waveforms 
of speech are very distinct and clear compared to random background 
noises