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nonsense

Eudora saves files as flat files .. standard unix style I believe.

if you turn off the computer while writing to disk and corrupting 
the indices .. well, nothing to do with Eudora.

According to their web site, the only way to avoid losing data in 
such a case is to compact the files daily. No one is going to do 
that,

You may be right, but it seems to me that no more than one email 
(the one you were saving to the hard drive) should ever be lost. 
No?

Anyway, I have been testing readmail.r and it seems to discard the 
email I send. Is there any way to make it save it?

Whose responsibility is it to not lose data in case of power failure 
? It's the filesystem's responsibility. You should rather say: "Let 
all user's of [insert your filesystem here] beware !"  There are 
filesystems around that are highly resistent to data-loss through 
powerfailure. Unfortunately, most people around the world aren't 
using them.

How do rebol's files system do in case of power failure?

Graham, you have proded me to make one last effort to recover my 
work. I notice that I have 3 out files: out.mbx, out.mbx.001, and 
out.mbx.002. The indexes for the last two are not being rebuilt, 
and out.mbx.002 is where my unsent email exists. Any ideas?

I also notice that out.mbx.oo2 contains many copies of the last email 
which were saved automatically as I was writing it.

Hummm. I'll write another email and see what happens.

It just got appended to the bottom of out.mbx.

I can't see how Eudora knows which files have been sent and which 
not yet.

A little success. I used a text editors to copy the contents of out.mbx.001 
and out.mbx.002 to the end of out.mbx. Then deleted the out.toc index 
file. Started Eudora, and now I can see the emails. Hopefully I'm 
now be able to send them.

Thanks for proding me on Graham.

Rebol uses the host OS's filesystem. If you are on WindowsXP it's 
most likely NTFS, from Microsoft.

If you're working in an area where power is unreliable .. use a laptop.

Graham, I know. I bought one just before I left the States, but it 
was defective and I had to return it. Anyway, yesterday I bought 
a German made Augen UPS-1500DL. It uses two external car batteries 
to run for up to 8 hours without electricity from the power company. 
Really nice. Also, works with our generator, while our APC UPS would 
not.

I have a few minor updates to readmail.r, they will be put up this 
weekend.

As I am moving ISP's readmail.r will no longer be available at http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/
from the end of decemver onwards.


So where would the best place to put readmail.r on a permenant basis?


Any suggestions?  Not many people use it so I dont think its worth 
trying to register a domain name. 

I do have some web space, but if I move ISP's again I will run into 
the same problem.

Have you thought about rebol.org?

Hi Sunada ..... Is there a size limit on scripts?

Not at all -- there is no limit on size
The largest _single_ script so far is Space game -- at 0.25 meg.

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/search.r?find=size+%3E+200000
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If readmail.r is not a single script (ie it is a collection of scripts 
and files), then we can handle it as a package. Again, no limits 
on size:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/search.r?filter=type-package

Though many scripts in the Library are just one script file plus 
one documentation file. That doesn't need to be a package:
http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/cpt-recent-docs.r

The documentation can be in Makedoc or Makedoc2 format (plus some 
other formats too, like Nicomdoc)

I package readmail.r up as a single file (decompressed at runtime), 
it is 143Kb so I woulnt have a problem adding it to the library.

readmail 4.14.9 & associated helptext has been released (19/11/2006) 
...


For detailed changes http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.ver


readmail.r can be found at .... http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=readmail.r
or at http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.r

readmail is also the following formats 

rip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.rip

zip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.zip

the archive contains readmail.r & readmail.html 
(rip = compressed self extracting rebol archive)
 
Any problems let me know

ISP down ? file not found

Which file is not found? They all seem to work here
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working now

Phil, can readmail be made the default email client so that when 
I click on an email address in AltME it brings up readmail with that 
address in the To: field?

Not as far as I am aware .... when I click on an email address it 
brings up an altme window to send an email.

Hummm. So it does. I asked the wrong question.  What about clicking 
on an email address in a web page?

On Windows XP , you can select a mail client from the internet options, 
but mine only gives me outlookexpress & hotmail.

So you just ned to figue out how to add a new email client to the 
dropdown.

There has to be a way. :>)

Looks like the mail client has to Support MAPI .....

readmail 4.14.14 & associated helptext has been released (29/06/2007) 
...


readmail.r can be found at .... http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=readmail.r
or at http://peoplecards.ca/rebol/philb/readmail.r

Any problems let me know

Does it support IMAP?

Sorry .... no.

I dont have access to an IMAP server, so it would have been ard to 
develop for.  I have no idea how hard it would be to implement or 
how much reesign would be necessary.

reesign = redesign

well Rebol's imap support is quite incomplete ...

If it can help you, french rebol uses an IMAP server  
http://www.digicamsoft.com/cgi-bin/rebelBB.cgi

Source code at  http://www.digicamsoft.com/cgi-bin/rebelBB.cgi?code=1

French forum

it doesn't use Rebol's imap protocol though

Gmail is an IMAP server.  Its free.

The answer is, annoying and hard!  We are doing it right now (finally!). 
 
Should be done in about 30 days.
We plan to support Gmail's tags (which are cool).

http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=10339


Gmail doesn't currently support IMAP access. As part of our ongoing 
commitment to give our users easy access to their email, we have 
introduced POP access. We look forward to announcing other new features 
as they become available.

Doh, yes, actually I know that...sorry, we were using POP with Gmail 
as out test....

POP sucks.

Phil if you need an IMAP account on a server to test with, we can 
give you access to the one we set up to test Qtask's new Webmail 
interface.  The account contains lots of examples like large attachments, 
deep folders.  As we learn more, we fill it with ore examples.  Just 
shoot me a private message, and I will get you name and password.