World: r3wp

Gnome vs. KDE: I gave up on KDE ages ago. It has pretty good underpinnings, 
but the philosophy of cramming every possible feature into the GUI 
just makes it a nightmare to use. I don't know about KDE4, so I won't 
say much about that.

Gnome has a much better interface, but still a far way to go. It's 
exactly the opposite of KDE. I wish the two would go together and 
create a new desktop, based on KDE's underpinnings and Gnome's GUI.

But for serious work I prefer WindowMaker with GNUstep apps.

Well, you know where the best of both worlds is to be had ;-)

how do i set the network server for emstp on linux ?

oops i see

hmm, how do i set it to use local sendmail ?

Well, you don't ... rebol does not support sending email using sendmail, 
but

if you have a version with command-shell support ( call ) you can 
probably create the command line to call sendmail yourself ... I 
don't know how to do this, though.

CALL was freed for use in unlicensed Rebol/View some time ago.

I think interfacing with sendmail via the command line would be through 
the standard "mail" command, if sendmail is properly configured as 
standard MTA

The alternative would be to make sendmail listen on the local loopback 
network address, so you could use the REBOL send function

Linux newbie here.

Downloaded vmplayer, and a Fedora 6 core image.  Run the Fedora, 
and then downloaded Rebol core for Linux libc

when I try to run Rebol, nothing happens.  The permissions say it 
is an executable though.

Is this the wrong version for Fedora ?

Graham, I use Mandriva and dled the debian version and it works

or on a side note,try this new distro    http://www.ulteo.com/main/download.php

it was made by the guy who started the Mandrake distro and then got 
fired when Mandriva took over

Alan, I'm running this under Windows so need to find a Vmware appliance 
..

Ok, found a Mandriva appliance .. downloading it.

900Mb later .. no go.  The Mandriva Vmware appliance just keeps cycling 
on me. :)

Do

ldd rebol

to see what libraries it needs, then see if you have them installed

Thanks.  It says libstdc++.so.5 not found ... everything else is 
found.

How do I install that?

This might help - http://blogs.activestate.com/kevinw/2006/02/libstdc5_how_to.html

I found another site that said I should do this:

yum install compat-libstdc++-33


which I did .. and after a few things printed to the screen .. it's 
just sitting there :(

...sorry .. no experience of yum ....I'm as new to Linux as you ...I 
installed Ubuntu desktop as a dual-boot on my XP machine.

...silly question ...have you downloaded the library?

I think the rpm was already present ..and so yum was doing it's thing. 
 1 hour later, it's still parsing the input parameters :(

I managed to get a Suse livePC running .. and Rebol runs.

only problem, the screen res is 640x480 :(

Maybe I should use a real Linux rather than a virtualised one :(

Graham, most of the times if you have a libstdc++.so.<someotherversion> 
 you can just symlink to .5 and REBOL will work.

It's the Law of Linux: different distros and different versions will 
have very different problems, but there will always be one showstopper...

Syllable will be different??

More newbie questions .. how come i double click on Rebol and the 
desktop comes up.  I click on console, and it all shuts down.  No 
console, and no desktop?

probably because you didn't start it from a shell. since it wasn't 
tied to a shell, it can't go anywhere when you leave the desktop 
and just shuts down.

IIRC depending on the desktop manager you use, you can open icons 
with a shell automatically.  and can ask the manager to hide the 
shell until the app bums out.  look into the icon's properties... 
This might also only be an option for .r file associated icons themselves 
(not rebol, but for script with an icon).

I used to do so for python scripts... it was really cool... no one 
saw the shell, until a crash occured, in which case all the prints 
where available for copy/paste.

Seems to be using Gnome

This is a tad frustrating .. my emr is a single script ( from prerebol 
) and runs under windows.  Under Fedora, it does nothing :(

what happens when you try to run it from shell?

I am trying to run it from the view console

I was using kde at the time...

Just downloaded the lastest sdk ( I think for fedora ).  Try and 
run enface,and get a permission denied message :(

What's the Linux equivalent of the windows environment variables?

exports, I believe. type 'export' in a shell and see what happens.

or 'env'

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