World: r3wp
[Linux] group for linux REBOL users
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Rebolek 23-Mar-2006 [562x2] | Interesting.I'm going to try that tonight. |
And I was wondering why there are new Linux builds when the old ones work without problems :) | |
[unknown: 10] 23-Mar-2006 [564x10] | Right... Im testing with 1.3.2.4.2 8-Dec-2005.. Lets try the other..the Debian release.. |
Oo Pekr.. I was just currious If font would work with Draw under linux.. since Cyphre pointed out that it worked... | |
because im building some draing tool ...did it under windows but like to build it under linux as it is my main Os... | |
and i LOVE fonts ;-) | |
HA !!!! | |
You dont believe it !!! | |
It works with the latest Debian release !!!!! GREAAAAAAATTT!! | |
so the rebview from the SDK262....... | |
Thanks Cyphre... | |
i mean nit works not with the rebview from sdk262 | |
Cyphre 24-Mar-2006 [574x2] | Glad to hear that ;) |
The freetype support should work properly only with the new Linux builds: 16-Mar-2006 and up | |
Pekr 24-Mar-2006 [576] | nice .... what about OS-X - does it use FreeType too? Windows uses TrueType, right? |
Henrik 24-Mar-2006 [577] | cyphre, what was done to solve the problem? is it part of needing to support individual distributions now? |
[unknown: 10] 24-Mar-2006 [578] | yes good question.. |
Cyphre 27-Mar-2006 [579x3] | Pekr: OSX will have native font support so no need for FreeType. |
Henrik: the FreeType suport in Linux ports was added recently and there was some inconsistency problems how the FreeType wrapper worked between different distros. Now the code should be 'united' to work ok. | |
As you can see here: http://www.rebol.net/builds/lib-dep.htmlthe FreeType library is one of those libraries which might depend on different distro or version but it is not definitely the only one. | |
BrianW 30-Mar-2006 [582] | Any idea if it's possible to get anti-aliased fonts with AltMe beta or the Debian View build? Rebol is kinda standing out in a bad way on my desktop right now. |
Henrik 30-Mar-2006 [583] | nope, if AltME uses standard VID, then AA fonts are still only a part of DRAW |
Cyphre 3-Apr-2006 [584] | Yes, AA fonts can be rendered using DRAW only in the current version. But I'm not sure that AA rendering of such small font sizes like in Altme mesages can improve reading ;) |
Rebolek 3-Apr-2006 [585] | I've tried to "rebol --reinstall" and that's funny, there's Windows installer with "create start menu item" and "create desktop shortcut" and with the great ending: ** Script Error: create-reg has no value ** Where: register ** Near: if not create-reg/hklm key [return false] (latest debian release) |
Gabriele 4-Apr-2006 [586] | rebolek, i guess that is just skipped on linux, but not when you force it. so please submit this to rambo :) |
Allen 4-Apr-2006 [587x2] | Testing Altme running vmwareplayer |
vmplayer + Browser Appliance + Altme ... Appears to be working fine. | |
Anton 5-Apr-2006 [589] | Sounds good. Which distro are you running that on ? |
Allen 5-Apr-2006 [590x2] | Used the Altme Debian Linux 3.1beta from http://www.altme.com/beta.html , fonts aren't as good on mac or windows version. but otherwise it works. Nothing extra needed, just the vmwareplayer with their default browser-appliance snapshot (Ubuntu with Firefox) |
to clarify. The fonts suck on linux | |
Henrik 5-Apr-2006 [592] | the font suckiness varies for me. on some machines large fonts look really blocky, like an upscaled bitmap. it's probably more a question on which fonts the distribution has installed |
Kaj 5-Apr-2006 [593] | It's dark magic. On some Linuxes, the REBOL fonts are really distorted. When they're as intended, it's still only old-style Helvetica that's not anti-aliased, so they stick out as a sore thumb compared to the rest of the system |
Pekr 5-Apr-2006 [594] | is that really so difficult to get it right? Maybe RT could contract some linux developer to clear out how to properly do such things ... |
Kaj 5-Apr-2006 [595] | Fonts are one of the biggest messes on Linux/BSD, due to X11, really |
Volker 5-Apr-2006 [596x2] | Due to patents on truetype? |
Or because of nameing, not because of look? | |
Kaj 5-Apr-2006 [598] | No, it's just a mess, with several different font systems working against eachother - as usual in Linux |
Gabriele 6-Apr-2006 [599] | petr: the "proper" way is to link to gtk or qt. you know, there's no gui standard there... the only thing you can take for granted on GNU/Linux is the linux kernel and the GNU utilities. |
Kaj 6-Apr-2006 [600] | Unless of course you encounter unexpected kernel modifications or BusyBox or things like that :-) |
Cyphre 7-Apr-2006 [601] | yep, the main problem of doing things "properly" in Linux/BSD is that there is usually no standard way ;) |
DideC 20-Apr-2006 [602] | Q: How to know witch Distro I have in command line ? What is the command ? |
Graham 20-Apr-2006 [603] | isn't there a version string? |
PeterWood 20-Apr-2006 [604] | echo $OSTYPE display the "type" of OS using tsch shell. On a Mac it echoes darwin |
Graham 20-Apr-2006 [605x2] | I have /etc/SuSe-version |
$0STYPE just says linux | |
PeterWood 20-Apr-2006 [607x2] | Try uname -v |
or uname -a for more info | |
Graham 20-Apr-2006 [609] | doesn't help much |
yeksoon 20-Apr-2006 [610x2] | try 'ls /etc/*release |
in my opinion, 'uname' is more of a standard utility to identify the kernel. | |
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