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Evgeniy Philippov 18-Jan-2012 [4254x6] | ldconfig -p|grep libXaw libXaw3d.so.6 (libc6) => /usr/lib32/libXaw3d.so.6 libXaw3d.so (libc6) => /usr/lib32/libXaw3d.so libXaw.so.7 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib/libXaw.so.7 libXaw.so.7 (libc6) => /usr/lib32/libXaw.so.7 libXaw.so (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib/libXaw.so Ok ldconfig -p|grep libXaw7 Ok ls -l /usr/lib32/libXaw* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2011-10-08 05:30 /usr/lib32/libXaw3d.so -> libXaw3d.so.6 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 2011-10-08 05:30 /usr/lib32/libXaw3d.so.6 -> libXaw3d.so.6.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 297332 2010-05-10 02:48 /usr/lib32/libXaw3d.so.6.1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2011-10-08 05:30 /usr/lib32/libXaw7.so -> libXaw7.so.7 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 2011-10-08 05:30 /usr/lib32/libXaw7.so.7 -> libXaw7.so.7.0.0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 373352 2011-02-19 04:17 /usr/lib32/libXaw7.so.7.0.0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2011-10-08 05:30 /usr/lib32/libXaw.so.7 -> libXaw7.so.7 Ok |
And ld.so.conf includes /usr/lib32/ | |
Kaj: Which 'another' ldconfig? I re-ran ldconfig frequently | |
I re-ran it when all *Xaw7* were already present and /usr/lib32/ was present at ld.so.conf.d/biarch*.conf. After that re-running, *Xaw7* was still missing from its cache. Why? And how to force it into a cache? | |
It seems I need ldconfig sources to understand what is going on with it. | |
too lazy | |
Kaj 18-Jan-2012 [4260x3] | That's what I meant. rerunning ldconfig, if ldd still can't find a library |
You could try setting $LD_LIBRARY_PATH before calling altme, to force the 32 bits libraries to be searched first | |
It's probably empty by default on an Ubuntu derivative | |
Evgeniy Philippov 19-Jan-2012 [4263x3] | Yay this worked! But it's ldconfig's fault to not handle that beforehand |
cat > altme.sh export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib32:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH /home/gouslar/green_meadow/computer_house/AltME/042/altme Ok chmod u+x ./altme.sh Ok ./altme.sh Ok | |
now it works perfectly | |
Evgeniy Philippov 23-Jan-2012 [4266] | Hehe. Just a random fun: on #gnu: <man> hi gnudists! |
Kaj 23-Jan-2012 [4267] | :-) |
Evgeniy Philippov 26-Jan-2012 [4268x11] | hmm. tar is unoptimal on linux. tar shows 20% cpu usage on the following: |
tar -xzvf debian-hurd.img.tar.gz debian-hurd-20111214.img Ok ls -Hl size=3146776576 debian-hurd-20111214.img size=260521812 debian-hurd.img.tar.gz Ok | |
it must show 0.0000(0)1 cpu usage on optimal OS and fs and tar implementation | |
gzip shows 45% cpu while this | |
Are there desktop gadgets sitting on the screen background and screen foreground etc available on Linux, who knows? | |
Is there such a desktop environment? | |
The article http://www.scribd.com/doc/55687428/Gadgetsattributes the first use of the word gadget regarding the software to AmigaOS. | |
I want +"screengadgets" +software +linux --- but there's NONE!!! :( | |
SHIT. GTK+ 3.x now supports CSS. machines get slower and slower with all of that stupid architects | |
http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.2/ | |
I discard GTK+ into a trashcan with such directions of development. Qt supports CSS either. Trashcan, too. | |
Dockimbel 26-Jan-2012 [4279] | I guess that's why people are sticking with GTK+ 2.x. |
Evgeniy Philippov 26-Jan-2012 [4280x2] | m.: EFL has a set of pretty light libraries --- what's EFL? --- m., this? http://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=about/eflThe Enlightenment Foundation Libraries (EFL) |
this url is an interesting stuff. One can program graphics bypassing X | |
Kaj 26-Jan-2012 [4282x2] | Is that so? EFL was always built on X |
The design also has limitations with threading/multi-core and hardware rendering | |
Evgeniy Philippov 26-Jan-2012 [4284x5] | look at the diagram. EFL can either work with X or without X |
the diagram below (the more complex one) document ways with no X | |
hardware rendering --- it has OpenGL, FrameBuffer and some other no-X ways... i don't know | |
re: threading/multicore i don't know | |
I mean no-X OpenGL and no-X Framebuffer. Maybe that diagram is misleading but maybe it is not misleading | |
Kaj 26-Jan-2012 [4289x4] | It does seem to be less limited than it used to be. Although DirectFB figures in the text, but not in the diagrams |
I considered it for a Red binding, but GTK has many more advanced third-party widget projects | |
Also, GTK is cross-platform. The EFL diagram vaguely mentions Win32/CE but mainly it still seems to be tied to Linux and maybe BSD | |
On Mac, EFL works only on X11. On Windows, not all components work | |
Evgeniy Philippov 26-Jan-2012 [4293x2] | Enlightenment DE also doesn't support UTF-8 output garbling the cyrillic characters. |
on gnewsense Linux | |
Kaj 27-Jan-2012 [4295] | Really? They talk about rendering Hindi, so I suppose it should work |
Evgeniy Philippov 27-Jan-2012 [4296x4] | Well. With tweaking configs and stuff maybe. Out of the box, it doesn't work. |
Here is a nice GRUB2 startup image with cosmic ship flying to Saturn with grub.cfg on how to display the image during GRUB2 menu display: http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/hurd-i386/installer/cdimage/current/debian-cd_info.tar.gz | |
The image and .cfg are easily extractable from the archive. | |
It would be fun to grow Linux with no X at all! Thoughts anyone? | |
Izkata 27-Jan-2012 [4300] | Here's an article all about it: http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/05/21/a-day-without-x/ |
Andreas 27-Jan-2012 [4301x2] | Also: http://wayland.freedesktop.org/ |
And Kaj already mentioned DirectFB. | |
Evgeniy Philippov 27-Jan-2012 [4303] | Andreas, I'm interested in direct video hardware programming under linux. So the following text from a page you mentioned is most interesting to me: |
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