World: r3wp
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Robert 29-Nov-2009 [3299x2] | I'm mostly using Debian, what's the better GUI: KDE or Gnome? |
Seems like Gnome is the standard... | |
BrianH 29-Nov-2009 [3301x2] | Both are the standards, depending on who you ask. That's the great thing about standards - there are so many of them. |
Oh, and XFCE is another standard that has been gaining some traction. | |
Henrik 29-Nov-2009 [3303] | Ubuntu 9.10 is quite good. I've only had to visit the terminal a couple of times to get SMB filesharing working since I first booted it 5 minutes ago and only one cryptic error message appeared. |
Robert 29-Nov-2009 [3304] | Wow... 420MB download for stripped down Gnome... |
Henrik 29-Nov-2009 [3305] | Robert, IMHO, neither desktop is any good. KDE is well engineered underneath but the end user design is clueless. Here Gnome is better, but suffers from poor code quality, and have basically been spending close to 10 years rectifying that. |
Kaj 29-Nov-2009 [3306x12] | That's right on the mark |
Allen, does that Thinkpad still have the default 32 MB memeory? Then there are very few Linuxes you could use | |
Even if it has more, to have a workable installation you need an extremely lean distro | |
Here's a very good one: | |
http://slitaz.org/ | |
He'll need one of the loram-cdrom versions to work on that little memory: | |
http://download.tuxfamily.org/slitaz/iso/2.0/flavors/ | |
Slitaz has modern applications such as the new Firefox, but running those will be out of the question | |
Here's a Linux with older apps especially for old machines: | |
http://www.delilinux.org/ | |
Its development has almost stopped, though | |
At the danger of sounding repetitive, Syllable is one of the few systems you could reasonably try on such a low-memory machine - especially for an Amiga enthusiast | |
Robert 29-Nov-2009 [3318x2] | I really like the zillions distros to choose from... makes my system unique around the world. :-) |
No modding or pimping required. | |
Kaj 29-Nov-2009 [3320] | Yup, no better way to maximise complexity than to let every user build their own operating system |
Ashley 30-Nov-2009 [3321] | Gentoo then ;) |
Robert 30-Nov-2009 [3322] | i think I will give Ubunto a try. IIRC it's debian based. |
Henrik 30-Nov-2009 [3323] | Looking at moblin now for a netbook for a 7-year old (school requirement). Anyone tried that? |
Gabriele 30-Nov-2009 [3324] | I'm using Mint. |
Henrik 30-Nov-2009 [3325] | is it 7-year-old friendly? :-) |
Kaj 30-Nov-2009 [3326] | Is any computer system? Depends on the 7-year old. But Mint is the least worst |
Gabriele 1-Dec-2009 [3327] | well, i went to distrowatch, tried a few of them, and mint seemed the best for me. i'd love to use gobo instead, but when i tried it everything self-destroyed on the first update. |
Henrik 1-Dec-2009 [3328] | I guess I can read a bit about it. |
Robert 1-Dec-2009 [3329x2] | Does it make sense to use Ubuntu 64bit or is 32bit better? |
I need to compile stuff for 32bit as well. | |
Kaj 1-Dec-2009 [3331] | As well? Does that include 64 bits? Then you can't do that without a 64 bits installation |
Gabriele 2-Dec-2009 [3332x2] | i have the 64bit version of Mint. never had any problems with 32 bit apps, and the system is 20% faster than the 32 bit version (I actually tested this), and able to use all my RAM and not just part of it. |
if you have more than 2 GB of RAM, there are just too many advantages to using the 64 bit version. | |
BrianH 2-Dec-2009 [3334] | Mint includes the 32bit libs - one of the many reasons it is a great Linux distro :) |
Henrik 2-Dec-2009 [3335] | Any other killer features? |
Gabriele 2-Dec-2009 [3336x3] | they have a number of GUIs but i've never used them. (like for sharing files with other people etc.) |
otherwise, it's Ubuntu with more QA :) | |
(and a better non-brown theme) | |
Henrik 2-Dec-2009 [3339] | Ubuntu and QA in the same sentence? :-) |
Gabriele 2-Dec-2009 [3340x2] | well, in the level that you can get on Linux of course. |
anyway, don't listen to me, just download the live cd, look at it, and trash it if you don't like it. | |
Henrik 2-Dec-2009 [3342] | For me, Ubuntu feels worse than Win98 in QA, so yes, that's why I question the QA abilities of the Ubuntu team. It looks to me that they only test the first 30 seconds of desktop usage. |
Robert 2-Dec-2009 [3343] | Hmm... ok. What I need is a debian based simple distro. So, it sounds like MINT is a good choice. |
Kaj 2-Dec-2009 [3344] | If by simple you mean user oriented, then yes |
TomBon 2-Dec-2009 [3345] | robert, as a rolling release system ARCH could be a solution as well. it is not DEBIAN based (closer concept to BSD and GENTOO) but it is very fast, stable and alway fresh. the configuration e.g. is central and very logic. I am using it with a small footprint XFCE for desktop-virtualisation, just running...and running... |
Kaj 2-Dec-2009 [3346] | I don't think Robert would like Arch for a desktop (too much configuration), but as a server, maybe |
Robert 3-Dec-2009 [3347x2] | Correct, I just need a simple (not much to configure) system so that I can compile some code, that will than be transfered to my server system. I avoid compiling on my server. |
On the server I use EisXen. Sof far OK, but the update/upgrade route is bad. | |
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