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I am sourcing a file with alias commands in them, but they aren't 
actually being applied.

typing those exact commands directly in the shell works.


I know alias is not a file command, but a bash internal operation, 
but how can I get bash to source the files and apply the aliases 
to my login automatically?


the echo within the file IS printing on the shell, so its not just 
chmod thing... any linux gurus can help me?

Depending on the Linux distro, there are several startup files executed 
by the shell where you can enter them

in this case, debian.

I currently have mine in my home directory in .bashrc

I usually prefer having separate files for different tasks rather 
than dumping everything in the main files.

If you're not using BASh it could be .profile

maybe the originally sourced files are executed a bit differently.


on sgi IRIX I never had any issue with sourcing files into the .cshrc 
files...  I was using tcsh, which I usually prefer over bash, but 
isn't included by default in all flavors of unix.

bash tells me it can't find tcsh, so I assume its not loaded on my 
distro.

If you want to define them globally, /etc/profile probably works, 
or maybe /etc/bash.bashrc

I'll defining them in the .bashrc to see if they are set automatically.

tcsh is not standard, but you can install it

I remember that things like aliases are a bit more flexible (dangerous 
too) in csh and tcsh

its possible define an alias for "/" , for example, which bash doesn't 
understand.

thanks for the help :-)

You're welcome

its soo cool my ssh based tool reports the login errors in a nice 
rebol alert box hehehe

:-)

putting them in .bashrc does work... ah well, if you can't beat the 
system, join it.

Yeah, I don't know the cause of your real problem

what's strange to me is that the echo within my sourced file was 
sent to the console, clearly indicating it was being call as a script, 
unless there are different bash script evaluation levels and I don't 
know how to set it up.

I'd say sourcing should have done the trick

me again with linux problems :(


I made binding to Haru PDF library ... it works on windows but now 
I am trying to make it work on lunux from where it will be serverd 
via cheyenne... the problem is that I have 64bit linux and so this 
libhpdf.so compiles as 64bit shared library

I looked on net and saw gcc can compile as 32bit with -m32 option 
if you have something called multibit "gcc -print-multi-lib" .. which 
I seem to have .. I changed ./configure to add this flag but then 
I get some c compilation errors ( I could sucsessfully compile it 
without this option) ...

Any ideas how to do this? I am trying to compile it now on my other 
VPS which is 32bit and copy file to the 64bit vps but I have no idea 
if this will work

I keep getting "internet busy.." on altme with the other computer

and my messages get "eaten".. aha here it works

I said over there "yipeee!!! .so compiled on 32bit debian and copied 
to 64bit one works!!

I get the same thing here. Reconnecting helps temporarily.

Any idea how to start a rebol script via ssh (I have a VPS) .. and 
detach it from my console so when I close it it won't stop running?


cheyene executable file does this automagically (I have no idea how) 
.. if I run cheyenne through .r script it exits with me .. but my 
problem now is not with cheyenne but I have a custom script that 
should run in the background. After googling yesterday I found out 
about >> nohup script-to-run & which seemed to still work if I closed 
ssh and started another one but now I see for the second time that 
after a while it exited as it isn't running any more ...

( I also tried to install daemontools before finding out about >nohup 
&< thing but it somehow didn't want to start working yet.. I intend 
to make this work but I need some easyer solution sooner, as I am 
sure there is something obvious I don't know )

custom script = custom rebol script

btw ... I have a wiki where I write down these things so I don't 
forget ..  http://www.manage-websites.com/doku.php?id=tutorial-linux-shell
 .. if you are linux-stupid like me maybe you can find something 
helpfull.. or you can add something :)

I haven't used it myself, but people use the screen program for such 
things

hm.. screen? I will look it up, haven't heard of this one ..

wow .. screen alows me tu have multiple sessions in one ssh window.. 
like in local linux .. I needed that badly !! ..

but I am not sure it's intended for what I described above .. basically 
running apps in background -- so they run (for days and weeks) after 
I close the ssh

You can use screen to detach a session and reconnect with it later, 
possibly from an entirely different machine

Another way is to have the program detach itself, possibly switching 
to running onder a different user account

http://rebol.wik.is/Hylafax/Dtach

Kaj , thanks .. it seems screen is very beneficial tool for working 
on ssh , I will start learning and using it

The link in Graham's article is good

yes, I am just reading it , it shows all these options .. Graham 
thanks

Yes, Janko, use screen.  That is what I did for my Tretbase DBMS 
awhile back.

I am using drach now and works very nice ... but screen is awesome 
tool to and I will use it in general sshing now (thanks Graham! I 
added dtrace sample to that wiki)

the command "nohup"  may still exist and be usefull

yes, nohup is very usefull too , with &  .. for example nohup some-longer-tast 
&  .. but for my concrete example I wasn't able to figure out why 
rebol script terminated after a while, not on every exit but at some 
point I just saw it wasn't running any more .. and by the look of 
nohup.out file there was no error .. but "rebol terminated"

tast = task

Janko, it's just that everytime I learn something that I know I will 
forget .. I write it in a wiki somewhere :)

the freely hosted mindtouch wiki that I use is convenient for things 
like that. ...

So, instead of storing the information in my head, I just store the 
pointer to it instead :))