World: r3wp
[Linux] group for linux REBOL users
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amacleod 17-Feb-2009 [2659] | I hate root |
Graham 17-Feb-2009 [2660] | RobertS, I think most of us with the eee just reformat them and install windows xp |
Brock 17-Feb-2009 [2661] | Graham, I'm assuming then that there are no driver issues when you do this? |
Graham 17-Feb-2009 [2662] | Just download the drivers first |
Kaj 17-Feb-2009 [2663] | RobertS, I know two people using REBOL on Eee with Linux. What are your issues? |
Gabriele 18-Feb-2009 [2664] | Graham, funny, I did the opposite, bought an eee Box, reformatted and installed Linux... |
Kaj 18-Feb-2009 [2665] | :-) |
Graham 18-Feb-2009 [2666] | Gabriele, that's odd ... the linux versions are cheaper! And i have quite a few spare XP licenses ... |
BrianH 19-Feb-2009 [2667x2] | It depends on which country you live in. Installing XP on it is not a simple task though - you need to PXE boot your installer. |
The XP installer often has problems with USB-connected drives, in my experience. It's simpler to clean up the OEM XP install. | |
Graham 19-Feb-2009 [2669] | Booted fine with my USB DVD writer |
BrianH 20-Feb-2009 [2670x2] | Cool. |
I recommend awxLink if you want to use it with XP - it's a lot easier than trying to get software to install on D itself. | |
Gabriele 21-Feb-2009 [2672] | G: there was no Linux version of the Box (notice, not eee PC, eee Box). |
Graham 21-Feb-2009 [2673x2] | G: ahh.... never met anyone who bought one of those. They already come with embedded linux, was that enough? :) |
wasn't ... | |
Kaj 22-Feb-2009 [2675] | Two Linuxes is better than one :-) |
Gabriele 22-Feb-2009 [2676] | That wasn't enough, that box needs to run a View program (and basically just that, though since now it's there it also runs Skype etc.). It was a replacement for a old (10 years old, and it was low spec back then) PC that literally exploded. |
Anton 22-Feb-2009 [2677] | Capacitors ? |
Gabriele 23-Feb-2009 [2678] | probably, it was the power supply. i didn't open it is there really was no point. the pc still works after replacing the power supply with one I had around, though i don't think it would last more than a couple months, and it's too old to be used for anything. |
Anton 23-Feb-2009 [2679] | RIP |
Kaj 23-Feb-2009 [2680] | Syllable can probably raise it from the dead :-) |
Graham 23-Feb-2009 [2681] | Those power supplies can make a rather loud bang with smoke etc :) |
Gabriele 24-Feb-2009 [2682] | Kaj, possible, but I have no use for it at this point. The installed OS right now is Xubuntu, which is slow to boot etc. but once booted runs REBOL fine enough. |
Robert 15-Mar-2009 [2683x4] | I normally don't install development tools on my production servers. I just install pre-compiled packages. This works good most of the time. |
But how to handle source-only packages? I have an other system with everything on place. But how to do the install on the production server? | |
The makefiles won't run (because compiler versions etc. is checked) and deriving what to install where is not straight forward to derive from makefiles. | |
Any idea how to best do it? | |
Anton 15-Mar-2009 [2687x2] | What would be good to know is what new files are added during an installation. So maybe you could compile & install on your other system with development tools in place, then examine which files were added, then copy them to the production server. |
To achieve the above you need to do 2 things: 1) Log files that were modified or added during the compile/installation (or otherwise find them after the installation). 2) Copy to the production server. | |
Robert 15-Mar-2009 [2689] | Well... yes, but that's quite heavy. But maybe the only way to handle it. |
Anton 15-Mar-2009 [2690x4] | To do 1, it may help to use this console command after an install. alias recent='find . -type f -printf '\''%TY-%Tm-%Td/%TT %p\n'\'' | sort' |
We can't be the only ones wondering how to do this, so I will check google for a tool to monitor installs.... | |
1) inotify - Looks promising. Requires programming, but user-land tools have been created http://inotify-tools.sourceforge.net/ | |
2) kfsmd - Looks good too. The example output seems minimalistic - just what is needed for this job. | |
Robert 15-Mar-2009 [2694] | Anton, thanks, I'll take a look |
Gabriele 16-Mar-2009 [2695x3] | What distribution is that? Both rpm and dpkg allow you to build a binary package from a source package automatically. |
If both machines have the same distros, you can compile on one and install the binary package in the other. | |
if you have different distros/versions it can be a bit more complicated, depending on dependencies and so on. | |
Robert 16-Mar-2009 [2698] | I use debian. How can I create such a binary package from a source package? Any reference to this? |
Kaj 16-Mar-2009 [2699x2] | Is there a Debian-format source package? Then creating the binary version shouldnīt be hard, although I donī t know the command |
If you donīt have a Debian package, then it would be quite a lot of work to create one | |
Izkata 16-Mar-2009 [2701x2] | check out dpkg-buildpackage |
never did such a thing myself, though | |
Anton 17-Mar-2009 [2703] | Robert, here it mentions 'pbuilder (Personal Builder)' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_build_toolchain |
Oldes 17-Mar-2009 [2704] | Is it possible to run rebview without xserver? I have all required libs: ldd rebview linux-gate.so.1 => (0xb7fd4000) libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0xb7ee2000) libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0xb7ed4000) libXt.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXt.so.6 (0xb7e84000) libXaw.so.7 => /usr/lib/libXaw.so.7 (0xb7e2a000) libXmu.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0xb7e15000) libstdc++.so.5 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 (0xb7d5b000) libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0xb7cf1000) libm.so.6 => /lib/tls/libm.so.6 (0xb7ccc000) libdl.so.2 => /lib/tls/libdl.so.2 (0xb7cc7000) libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xb7cbc000) libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0xb7b8a000) libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0xb7b87000) libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0xb7b82000) libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 (0xb7b79000) libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0xb7b60000) libXpm.so.4 => /usr/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0xb7b50000) libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0xb7b3c000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7fd5000) but Rebol halts on error: ** User Error: Bad face in screen pane! ** Near: size-text self |
Dockimbel 17-Mar-2009 [2705] | You need part of Xlib installed to run View. For Debian-based linux, I use : apt-get install libx11-6 libxaw7 libstdc++5 libfreetype6 |
Oldes 17-Mar-2009 [2706x2] | There must be something else.. the above I used to get the libs. |
I guess it will be something with fonts as the error is in the size-text function. | |
PeterWood 18-Mar-2009 [2708] | What is the character encoding expected by View under Linux? |
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