World: r3wp
[Linux] group for linux REBOL users
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Geomol 3-May-2008 [2163] | You're welcome! :-) |
btiffin 3-May-2008 [2164] | Well worth the effort Louis. GNU/Linux is and always has been my favourite "IDE". :) |
Louis 3-May-2008 [2165x2] | btiffin, Well, I've had many problems with XP, so I'm ready to move on. Most of the software I'm been using on XP was ported from Linus. Only a few are genuine XP programs. So, I' |
m hoping they will work on XP runnning under Virtualbox. | |
btiffin 3-May-2008 [2167] | Wine is your friend for most Windows needs under GNU/Linux. It's just better, smarter, stronger. But ... it does require learning a little bit about computing. Something MS seems to want to keep to themselves for that whole, lock in mentality their stock price is based on. |
Louis 3-May-2008 [2168x2] | My XP machine presently freezes up randomly. It may be caused by a virus, but Kapersky can't find it. Ghost will not boot up to restore my backup. So, I'm rather disgusted with XP at the moment. Actually, I don't even want to run it under Virtualbox. |
Do you recommend wine over Virtualbox? | |
btiffin 3-May-2008 [2170x4] | Never tried Virtualbox. Wine is great though. WineHQ pumps out releases on a very regular basis. It gets better everyday and they package it up for apt, rpm and most GNU/Linux binary package managers. |
And the developers are gamers too, so the list of supported apps usually starts with games, then works down through the other applications. | |
http://www.winehq.orgfor more info. | |
I just looked. Yesterday they announced a freeze for Wine 1.0 Woohoo. Yes, there will be incompatibilities, but it seems the principals feel it's ready for a 1.0 tag. Great news. | |
Graham 3-May-2008 [2174] | Hope they fix that decimal bug. |
Louis 22-May-2008 [2175x2] | Do any of you guys use Linux without a gui? I note that |
Gimp can be loaded from the command console. Could it be loaded if there were no gui such as KDE? | |
BrianH 22-May-2008 [2177] | Unless you are using gimp script, I would think you would at least need an X server somewhere. |
Louis 22-May-2008 [2178] | If so, it seems to me that work would go a lot faster without the gui once the main Linux commands are learned. Am I right about this? |
BrianH 22-May-2008 [2179x2] | You would be wrong about the problem domain that is covered by your example app, Gimp. Other problem domains could be different though. |
I would be slowed down - I can't type very quickly. | |
Louis 22-May-2008 [2181] | What do you mean by "problem domain"? |
BrianH 22-May-2008 [2182x2] | In this case, image editing. |
I mean the general kind of problem an app is supposed to help with. | |
Louis 22-May-2008 [2184x2] | Ok, I see what you mean. I guess it would be best to keep all options open. I've just be intriged by how much faster one can, for example, locate files use the command console---it is almost instant. |
Thanks, Brian. | |
BrianH 22-May-2008 [2186x2] | coLinux-based distributiins manage just fine on Windows with just console and networking support - all of the GUI and sound stuff comes from servers running as native Windows apps and talking over the network connection. |
Most of what I do could in theory be done from the command line (I don't edit images much), but the gain or loss in productivity varies. | |
Tomc 24-May-2008 [2188] | I use have used Unix without a gui well forever, but unless gimp has an ascii rendering mode (netpbm does) it may not be what you want . |
Louis 24-May-2008 [2189] | I'm keeping KDE, but I find myself more and more using the the command console (or eshell from emacs). |
btiffin 24-May-2008 [2190] | Louis; Woohoo. CLI wins in my book. Everytime. Well I take that back a little. Windowed CLI's are just that little bit better, in terms of eye strain and quickly getting from task A to task B. Konsole is the da bomb. Note, my mileage varies. I don't really do art, but I appreciate it when I see it. Learn some bash, AWK, sed, tr and cut and there won't be a text file that can't be scrunched and munched into whatever form you desire. ;) Well, Icon too if you have reaallly complex needs. Umm, assuming REBOL doesn't already have a one-liner solution. |
Robert 25-May-2008 [2191] | I never used a GUI on Linux. The only thing I need is midnight commander. |
Kaj 27-May-2008 [2192x3] | I don't use a GUI on Syllable Server because it doesn't have one yet :-) |
If you work in a terminal emulator in an X window, you can just start graphical apps from the command line | |
If you really want to do it from the text mode console, you have to start X first. And then when you start an X app, it will open on console 7, the graphical one where X runs, so you have to switch consoles | |
Robert 30-Jun-2008 [2195x2] | Has anyone a link to a good GCC toolchain tutorial. Things like: How to make static-link-libs, etc. |
I already googled but there isn't really a lot available... | |
Robert 5-Jul-2008 [2197] | Any XEN or network configuration gurus here? I have setup a XEN system but have some problems with the network configuration. |
Alan 22-Jul-2008 [2198x2] | for anybody who uses Windows and Linux on the same box, this program allows you to read/write to each other.You will need to have any other usb/external hds plugged in before installing |
get it here : http://home.comcast.net/~amiga/Ext2.exe | |
Louis 3-Aug-2008 [2200] | I've read many docs but can't get cron to work. I'm editing the table with gcrontab. The cron prossess is running. There are no error messages, but my rebol script simply does not run. Any clues as to why? |
PeterWood 4-Aug-2008 [2201] | The two most obvious things are the shebang line in the script and file permissions. |
Louis 4-Aug-2008 [2202] | Peter, thanks. Is the shebang line absolutely necessary? Here is what I had in mind for the crontab line: 0 * * * * /usr/bin/rebview -s -script /home/lat/r/dar/backup.r When I use a shebang line a permissions request dialog pops up even though I have secure set to allow. |
PeterWood 4-Aug-2008 [2203x2] | Probaby not if you as you are running Rebol and supplying the scriptname as an arg. |
I don't think that you need the -script, have you tried /usr/bin/rebview -s /home/lat/r/dar/backup.r ? | |
Louis 4-Aug-2008 [2205x2] | I'll try that, but there are other problems showing up now, not related directly to cron. |
When I run the script from the command line, sudo asks for permissions. The script must ask me nothing so that it can run unattended. | |
Henrik 4-Aug-2008 [2207] | sudo will ask, if you are using sudo. that's not the script itself doing that. |
Louis 4-Aug-2008 [2208] | Yes, I know. I forgot about that and put sudo in the script. I can take sudo out easy enough, but then the script won't be able to make directories. How can the script run as root without having to ask me for a password? |
Henrik 4-Aug-2008 [2209] | I think you need to set that particular cron job for the root user. I'm not sure you can switch user level inside your current user to root inside a cron job. |
Louis 4-Aug-2008 [2210] | How do I do that? |
Henrik 4-Aug-2008 [2211] | su root and edit its crontab. you must be the user you want to edit the crontab for, AFAIK. |
Louis 4-Aug-2008 [2212] | Oh, ok. I'll try that. |
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