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Kaj 16-Apr-2007 [1423x3] | This is a good distro for audio work: |
http://www.dynebolic.org | |
Its creator is an old Amigan. :-) His parents even had an Amiga shop in Italy | |
Maxim 16-Apr-2007 [1426] | pretty cool claims on the home page... k5 and 64mb minimum HW, no install, etc. |
Kaj 16-Apr-2007 [1427] | It's true. It is a distro from scratch with several unique features, and it has been going for a number of years |
Anton 16-Apr-2007 [1428x2] | :) I've already briefly tried Dynebolic (or was it Pure:dyne ?) |
Kaj, have you used it for anything ? | |
Kaj 16-Apr-2007 [1430x2] | Not really, but it's one of the systems I've been following for years |
I've spoken with the creator several times, since he now lives in Amsterdam | |
Anton 16-Apr-2007 [1432] | How is Syllable going, by the way ? It must be nearly time for my yearly attempt to install Syllable. (I have a new machine to install it on.) |
Kaj 16-Apr-2007 [1433] | For example, it's the fastest starting of all available distros |
Anton 16-Apr-2007 [1434] | That is a good feature. :) |
Kaj 16-Apr-2007 [1435] | Not as fast as Syllable, of course. :-) Syllable is doing fine, but you still have about a fifty-fifty chance to get it to work. You may want to try the live CD first. If the install CD doesn't work, you can try the weekly build, which has additional fixes] |
Maxim 16-Apr-2007 [1436] | hardware support issues? |
Kaj 16-Apr-2007 [1437x2] | Yes, it's an enormous amount of work to get everything to work |
But we're progressing | |
Maxim 16-Apr-2007 [1439] | so when are you compiling it for Apple machines ;-) |
Kaj 16-Apr-2007 [1440] | It should almost work as-is on Intel Macs. Just that as far as I know, the boot loader doesn't entirely support the Apple firmware yet. But the latest Macs might work |
Maxim 16-Apr-2007 [1441] | (I was pulling your leg a little there ;-) |
Kaj 16-Apr-2007 [1442] | OK, but it's probably closer than you thought. :-) Last year we said that Apple was porting the Mac to Syllable |
Maxim 16-Apr-2007 [1443] | hehe |
Gabriele 16-Apr-2007 [1444] | Anton: I'll probably go with Kubuntu. It's based on Debian, it's well supported, and it has worked well enough for me in the past. I have used Gentoo but it's too much work (you get your own system, which is great, but it means you have to compile everything - and the config files need to be updated manually). I've never used Slackware... so I can't comment on it. I have a dynebolic CD, looks nice in its field, not sure as general-purpose. |
btiffin 16-Apr-2007 [1445] | Shameless plug; Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 The Debian model is the way to go with Open Source. Don't release software before it's time. Regardless of the "It's late! It's late!" yelling and gnashing of teeth. When it comes out, it's ready to come out. Plus (the shameless part), the more rebols that code on a Debian base, the happier I'll be, with scripts that work out of the box. :) |
Ladislav 16-Apr-2007 [1446x2] | Gabriele, did you look at Mepis? |
Linux DLL interface question: it looks to me, that if I declare settimeofday: make routine! [tv [struct! []] tz [struct! []] return: [integer!]] libc.so "settimeofday" and tv: make struct! [tv_sec [int] tv_usec [int]] reduce [seconds 0] then settimeofday tv null-struct works, but if I do instead: settimeofday make struct! [tv_sec [int] tv_usec [int]] reduce [...] null-struct , then it doesn't work. Can somebody confirm this? | |
btiffin 16-Apr-2007 [1448x5] | I tried Ladislav; I've never purchased a Command license, so have zero experience... What are the defintions of seconds and null-struct and I'll try it here under Debian and 2.7.5.4.2 |
And I guessed that libc.so was libc.so: load/library %/lib/libc.so.6 | |
So far I've tried with seconds: 0 null-struct: make struct! [secs [integer!] usecs [integer!]] none All I'm getting back is a return code of -1 for both of your examples and remain too new to know what ERRNO is set to. Plus I'm executing the code from a user process... so I did not expect it to work. | |
Under a root process the first form works... and the second form works as well... assuming I am anywhere near "getting it" | |
Of course it boned up my system clock...but that was easy to fix. :) | |
Ladislav 16-Apr-2007 [1453x2] | then it worked, interesting |
thanks for checking | |
btiffin 16-Apr-2007 [1455] | Anytime...learned a lot. |
Ladislav 16-Apr-2007 [1456x2] | -1 as the result: I think, that it means you didn't have the right to set the clock - I guess that only ROOT has |
just tried it again (Mepis6.5) and there is something strange | |
btiffin 16-Apr-2007 [1458] | Yeah, the user mode tests were coming back EPERM... I'll try some more tests with different seconds. |
Ladislav 16-Apr-2007 [1459x2] | you don't have to, that is not the problem I see |
I posted a private question, did you notice? | |
btiffin 16-Apr-2007 [1461x3] | Ok... I'm still learning. So I might just play with it anyway :) |
Just now. | |
Can we file share here...never tried it. | |
Ladislav 16-Apr-2007 [1464] | it looks like not being available here |
btiffin 16-Apr-2007 [1465] | Ok, I'm btiffin canada com |
Anton 16-Apr-2007 [1466x5] | Ladislav, Mepis looks nice. Do you use it ? |
Oh, you do :) | |
A comment by a reader: "...I've grown accustomed to SimplyMEPIS for every day, basic desktop needs. I run plain Debian when I want to test out tons of software, but I've been sticking with SimplyMEPIS when all I'm doing is reading Email, browsing the Web, and listening to streaming audio. .." | |
So it looks like you get good ease of use, but there is some restriction when it comes to trying out heaps of software. It could save me time when making machines for other people. | |
Gabriele, I just noticed Sabayon, based on Gentoo, but initial install is pre-compiled, and they provide a pool of pre-compiled packages. | |
Gabriele 17-Apr-2007 [1471x2] | you can install gentoo precompiled too, but that defeats the purpose of gentoo. :) |
ie. if i were to use a precompiled gentoo then i'd rather go with debian. | |
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