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[Syllable] The free desktop and server operating system family
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Kaj 15-Jun-2007 [807] | We're nowhere near 1.0, so Haiku certainly isn't. Despite their having said otherwise as early as several years ago |
Pekr 15-Jun-2007 [808] | will your announcement be published on your site after the conference? :-) |
Kaj 15-Jun-2007 [809x3] | There are tow big differences. They're recreating BeOS R5, so they're working on the past, while we have always designed the best system for the future. The other is that we're GPL/LGPL. They chose to recreate their own code because they chose the MIT license |
So, they can't use our code, while we can use theirs when it fits :-) | |
Yes, we will announce on our site and here, after the conference in a week and a half | |
Graham 15-Jun-2007 [812x2] | So, Syllable is a desktop OS ? |
Any databases on it ? | |
Pekr 15-Jun-2007 [814] | Graham - yes, I think it is a desktop ... |
Graham 15-Jun-2007 [815] | ( it's in the title of this channel ! ) |
Pekr 15-Jun-2007 [816] | I expect it being posix compliant, so theoretically, ports of stuff like that should not be a big problem .... |
Graham 15-Jun-2007 [817] | http://kamidake.other-space.com/is down |
Pekr 15-Jun-2007 [818] | what is that? |
Kaj 15-Jun-2007 [819x2] | We have ports of Berkeley DB and SQLite, so far |
Yes, the Kamidake software repository is gone, sadly. And we still have to clean up the links. Our own releases are on SourceForge, though | |
Graham 15-Jun-2007 [821] | No printing support yet |
Kaj 15-Jun-2007 [822x2] | We're quite POSIX compatible, but sadly, a lot of software assumes Linux these days. Porting is relatively easy, but still an art - or slavery, depending how you look at it :-) |
Yes, we have printing since the last release, although it's still buggy | |
Graham 15-Jun-2007 [824] | So, what do real live users use it for ? |
Pekr 15-Jun-2007 [825] | they use it for fun, imo .... |
Kaj 15-Jun-2007 [826] | Developing Syllable :-) |
Pekr 15-Jun-2007 [827] | it is for those who like to look at new stuff ... |
Graham 15-Jun-2007 [828] | what is the unique selling proposition? |
Kaj 15-Jun-2007 [829x2] | Yes, and basic browsing and email, listening music, watching video |
What is your Unique Need? :-) | |
Pekr 15-Jun-2007 [831] | Kaj - Graham is trying to find out, how it differs from "yet another OS out there" .... |
Graham 15-Jun-2007 [832] | USP = boots in 10 seconds... |
Pekr 15-Jun-2007 [833] | the same goes for languages, frameworks, we still can see new stuff .... |
Graham 15-Jun-2007 [834] | but can't do much yet ... |
Kaj 15-Jun-2007 [835] | Many, many things. Some people care about one, others about another |
Pekr 15-Jun-2007 [836] | USP - boots in 3 sec woudl be better :-) |
Kaj 15-Jun-2007 [837] | What would you buy if you choose between Linux, 90 seconds, Vista, 60 seconds, Syllable, 6 seconds? |
Graham 15-Jun-2007 [838] | DOS 2 seconds |
Kaj 15-Jun-2007 [839x2] | If Linux would have had our functionality in the first decade or so, people would have been delighted with what you can do with it |
So you still buy DOS these days? That's what I mean: different strokes for different folks :-) | |
Graham 15-Jun-2007 [841] | for me, I need a scriptable browser |
Kaj 15-Jun-2007 [842] | The reason that I'm always reluctant to answer this question is that everyone wants to hear something else |
Graham 15-Jun-2007 [843x3] | eg. chickenfoot in Firefox |
printing .. eg ghostscript | |
and Rebol of course | |
Kaj 15-Jun-2007 [846x2] | Events for our events system are being added to our browser. Never had that question yet :-) |
Ghostscript: check | |
Rebolek 15-Jun-2007 [848] | I want to hear that Syllable support low-latency audio ;) |
Kaj 15-Jun-2007 [849x2] | REBOL: in the works |
ORCA: check | |
Graham 15-Jun-2007 [851] | what is the state of orca? still in development? |
Kaj 15-Jun-2007 [852x2] | Lower latency than Linux: check (not perfect yet) |
We have a new audio framework in userspace, but our scheduler still needs to be improved | |
Graham 15-Jun-2007 [854] | postgresql or mysql also pretty much required |
Kaj 15-Jun-2007 [855x2] | ORCA is dormant, but in use, so development will wake up again one day |
No bigger databases yet. Someone tried PostreSQL and we ran into a porting snag for the moment being | |
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