World: r3wp

Syllable is something special. It has tremendous added value over 
systems such as Linux

It's just not ready for production yet

so what is that added value?

The OS scene seems to be crowded, but they're basically all the same 
systems

Added value? Depends on who you're explaining to. Here, I would say, 
having the Amiga spirit

is there live CD to try?

Sure, for two years now, I think

http://syllable.org

don't you "fear" BeOS clones? hmm, actually I wonder, if work on 
those continues or not. The most vital (or the only one?) seems to 
be Haiku?

I will try it over weekend :-)

Yes, they're most like us. But they started many years after us, 
actually looked at our code to see how it's done, and are still years 
behind...

Excellent. Have fun!

thanks ... so you think Haiku is nowhere close to release?

Are those philosophies so different, that you can't e.g. merge?

We're nowhere near 1.0, so Haiku certainly isn't. Despite their having 
said otherwise as early as several years ago

will your announcement be published on your site after the conference? 
:-)

There are tow big differences. They're recreating BeOS R5, so they're 
working on the past, while we have always designed the best system 
for the future. The other is that we're GPL/LGPL. They chose to recreate 
their own code because they chose the MIT license

So, they can't use our code, while we can use theirs when it fits 
:-)

Yes, we will announce on our site and here, after the conference 
in a week and a half

So, Syllable is a desktop OS ?

Any databases on it ?

Graham - yes, I think it is a desktop ...

( it's in the title of this channel ! )

I expect it being posix compliant, so theoretically, ports of stuff 
like that should not be a big problem ....

http://kamidake.other-space.com/is down

what is that?

We have ports of Berkeley DB and SQLite, so far

Yes, the Kamidake software repository is gone, sadly. And we still 
have to clean up the links. Our own releases are on SourceForge, 
though

No printing support yet

We're quite POSIX compatible, but sadly, a lot of software assumes 
Linux these days. Porting is relatively easy, but still an art - 
or slavery, depending how you look at it :-)

Yes, we have printing since the last release, although it's still 
buggy

So, what do real live users use it for ?

they use it for fun, imo ....

Developing Syllable :-)

it is for those who like to look at new stuff ...

what is the unique selling proposition?

Yes, and basic browsing and email, listening music, watching video

What is your Unique Need? :-)

Kaj - Graham is trying to find out, how it differs from "yet another 
OS out there" ....

USP = boots in 10 seconds...

the same goes for languages, frameworks, we still can see new stuff 
....

but can't do much yet ...

Many, many things. Some people care about one, others about another

USP - boots in 3 sec woudl be better :-)

What would you buy if you choose between Linux, 90 seconds, Vista, 
60 seconds, Syllable, 6 seconds?

DOS 2 seconds

If Linux would have had our functionality in the first decade or 
so, people would have been delighted with what you can do with it

So you still buy DOS these days? That's what I mean: different strokes 
for different folks :-)

for me, I need a scriptable browser

The reason that I'm always reluctant to answer this question is that 
everyone wants to hear something else