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[Syllable] The free desktop and server operating system family
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Evgeniy Philippov 14-Jan-2012 [2514] | And Syllable is painfully slow in VESA mode on my video card. Videocards with closed specs must be avoided. |
Kaj 15-Jan-2012 [2515x3] | Congratulations on the fix! Very cool |
Nobody is using the mailing list anymore, but I'll get your patch from there | |
It's not so much that the video specs are closed, but that the drivers haven't been updated for years. Ideally, the Nvidia driver and others should be ported again from Xorg and Linux | |
Evgeniy Philippov 15-Jan-2012 [2518] | Kaj where can I see the source code for pppd? |
Kaj 15-Jan-2012 [2519] | Unfortunately, we never got the source code for the port, so all there is is the official source code of the PPP project. That's why it isn't included in Syllable |
Evgeniy Philippov 15-Jan-2012 [2520x2] | ok |
It seems that without docs or source code, one cannot set up PPPoE using this ppp-beta1.zip. | |
Kaj 15-Jan-2012 [2522] | Other Russians have done it in the past. :-) I have no experience with PPPoE, but the existing material should be enough |
Evgeniy Philippov 15-Jan-2012 [2523] | pppd options syntax seems to be common between many Unices, but a eth0 option is port-specific issue |
Kaj 15-Jan-2012 [2524] | Is it even necessary to set any options? |
Evgeniy Philippov 15-Jan-2012 [2525x2] | sure. One has to fill two config files. |
One file specifies misc. connection parameters, and another file contains username/password pairs. | |
Kaj 15-Jan-2012 [2527x2] | Here's generic info: |
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/basicnet/ppp.html | |
Evgeniy Philippov 15-Jan-2012 [2529x4] | Ubuntu 11.04 and gNewSense 2.3 "deltah" still have drastically bad handling of PPPoE. |
Kaj: the main command is "plugin rp-pppoe.so eth0" | |
and rp-pppoe must be ported. | |
rp-pppoe.so is a separate file missing from ppp-beta1.zip. | |
Kaj 15-Jan-2012 [2533x3] | All I know is that this is enough for PPPoE |
Here's the site for pppd: | |
http://ppp.samba.org | |
Evgeniy Philippov 15-Jan-2012 [2536x2] | Kaj: Maybe those Russians ported something. |
Invisibly. | |
Kaj 15-Jan-2012 [2538x2] | No, this was ported by our German star programmer |
If you look for documentation of a version around five years old, it should match this version | |
Evgeniy Philippov 15-Jan-2012 [2540x3] | Hmm. How one could find it... Hmm hmm hmm but anyway ultimately pppd/pppoe should be re-ported for Syllable, with full source code. |
This seems to be a query: pppd 2007 manuals | |
Ahh. Google has options for date range. | |
Kaj 15-Jan-2012 [2543] | Yes, we need many re-ports, unfortunately. We've always tried to centralise development as much as possible, but there's still much chaos in a volunteer project |
Evgeniy Philippov 15-Jan-2012 [2544] | Linux docs from 2006 still mention rp-pppoe.so which is hosted at http://www.roaringpenguin.com/products/pppoe |
Kaj 15-Jan-2012 [2545x2] | In Linux, PPPoE support is a kernel module, separate from pppd. I don't know if that's the Roaring Penguin implementation, possibly not |
The Syllable package also has a kernel module. I would guess it's a port from the Linux module | |
Evgeniy Philippov 15-Jan-2012 [2547] | Ubuntu has RP. I will now check gNewSense. |
Kaj 15-Jan-2012 [2548] | Did you run the installation scriptlet? |
Evgeniy Philippov 15-Jan-2012 [2549x2] | Ah. I got it. I will try to specify that "ppp/if" as a substitute for rp-pppoe.so. |
Rebooting into Sy. | |
Kaj 15-Jan-2012 [2551] | It's a kernel module, not a user space library |
Evgeniy Philippov 15-Jan-2012 [2552] | Kaj: Of course I ran it. |
Kaj 15-Jan-2012 [2553] | As far as I know, it's not RP |
Evgeniy Philippov 15-Jan-2012 [2554] | ok |
Kaj 15-Jan-2012 [2555x2] | Just checking :-) |
I think you're hampered by knowledge. :-) Our Russion users who got it to work were plain users | |
Evgeniy Philippov 15-Jan-2012 [2557x2] | gNewSense uses rp-pppoe.so |
Just checked it. | |
Kaj 15-Jan-2012 [2559x2] | Syllable doesn't! |
Note that there's no speed option used in the LFS instructions | |
Evgeniy Philippov 15-Jan-2012 [2561] | Kaj: there is a way to specify speed. When you pass a natural number as an option to pppd, it considers it as a speed (baud rate) setting. |
Kaj 15-Jan-2012 [2562] | OK, but do you need it, if LFS doesn't? |
Evgeniy Philippov 15-Jan-2012 [2563] | Syllable pppd complained about _pty_ having a 0 baud rate setting, which is invalid condition and pppd exits. Therefore I added a speed option. |
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