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[Syllable] The free desktop and server operating system family
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james_nak 2-Sep-2011 [2408] | Kaj, that was an excellent article on Syllable. Thanks Alan for posting it. |
Kaj 2-Sep-2011 [2409] | Thanks! |
nve 25-Dec-2011 [2410] | Link to "Buy the premium CD" is broken : http://www.lulu.com/syllable -> 404 |
Kaj 25-Dec-2011 [2411x2] | Yes, unfortunately, Lulu has stopped making CDs, and simply removed all CD projects |
I'll have to do something about it, but I'm too busy | |
Dockimbel 10-Jan-2012 [2413] | I have been asked if an IRC channel existed for Syllable somewhere? If not, opening one on freenode could be a good idea? |
Kaj 10-Jan-2012 [2414x3] | From our site: |
irc://irc.freenode.net/#syllable | |
It's seldomly used, though | |
Dockimbel 10-Jan-2012 [2417] | Thanks. |
Evgeniy Philippov 12-Jan-2012 [2418x7] | I've installed Syllable Desktop 0.6.6. Didn't run my nvidia card so I switched to vesa mode. I didn't find my PS/2 Defender mouse, and navigation over GUI elements is degraded when only keyboard is used (underimplemented)? I can provide any details about my hardware. The primary problem at question is a mouse. |
It didn't understand my nvidia card, I mean. | |
It didn't find mouse. Too many typos from my side. | |
I will also need a pppoe protocol impl. Though I will soon change an ISP and will probably have different IP-related protocols. | |
Does Syllable have pppoe? | |
I would prefer Syllable over Windows and *nix since Windows and X are painfully slow :) | |
I'm experienced software (and asm) developer, so you can use my skills at diagnosing problems at my local installation :) | |
Kaj 12-Jan-2012 [2425x5] | It's not often that a PS/2 mouse doesn't work. Do you have another mouse you can try, maybe a USB mouse? |
Keyboard navigation is indeed not fully implemented, so it would be hard without a mouse | |
There's an experimental PPPoE implementation in the miscellaneous downloads: | |
http://web.syllable.org/Syllable/downloads.html | |
http://ru.syllable.org/Syllable/downloads.html | |
Evgeniy Philippov 12-Jan-2012 [2430] | Kaj: I only have one working mouse device. The other mouse I have is Sony VAIO Wireless mouse which is connected via VAIO's RF radio receiver, I have no such card in my PC. |
Kaj 12-Jan-2012 [2431] | Sorry, there's not much else to do than trying another mouse, unless you would want to debug and fix the problem in Syllable |
Evgeniy Philippov 12-Jan-2012 [2432x2] | I'd like to debug. Though now I need to leave---but you can ask questions, all levels of debugging are OK. |
Or you mean debug that on my own? | |
Kaj 12-Jan-2012 [2434x2] | Yes, there's not much I can do to debug remotely on your system, except giving some advice |
You'd have to follow the instructions on our development site to set up your Syllable installation for compiling software, then download the Syllable source code and start hacking the PS/2 mouse driver | |
Evgeniy Philippov 12-Jan-2012 [2436] | My OS of choice is however BlueBottle (bluebottle.ethz.ch) so I'd prefer to devote time to it. So that's a matter of time investments. E.g. I would not try hacking sources of Syllable... |
Kaj 12-Jan-2012 [2437] | That's the only way to debug |
Evgeniy Philippov 12-Jan-2012 [2438x3] | OK |
Or maybe I will try to hack. I will decide later, now I must leave. | |
Having a pppoe seems to raise my spirit for Syllable! | |
Kaj 12-Jan-2012 [2441] | :-) |
Evgeniy Philippov 12-Jan-2012 [2442] | BTW I think I will touch the instructions on a devel site. Is it clear how to do all of that, is there a clear link on a main site? |
Kaj 12-Jan-2012 [2443x3] | Yes |
http://development.syllable.org/main.html | |
How to Start Developing | |
Evgeniy Philippov 12-Jan-2012 [2446] | OK. I left. Turning off the screen :) |
Kaj 12-Jan-2012 [2447] | The Syllable source code is in the section Source Code |
PeterWood 12-Jan-2012 [2448] | Does REBOL/View run on Syllable desktop? |
Kaj 12-Jan-2012 [2449x4] | No, only R3/Core |
And Boron, ORCA and Red-produced executables | |
I produced Syllable Server to run R2 (and World) | |
Topaz could also run on both | |
Evgeniy Philippov 13-Jan-2012 [2453x5] | Kaj: BTW Congratulations on achieving a fast GUI at the OS! Even Oberon/A2 GUI is slower---though A2 uses bigger screen resolution. |
I had like 800x600 mode at Syllable vesa. | |
A2 Aka Native Bluebottle | |
Fetching all the development stuff and the desktop 0.6.6 source code... My MMV. | |
Was unable to copy kernel log to external filesystem mounted in rw mode. | |
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