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Yes, that is one of Syllable's selling points. :-) On Server, startup 
is currently a mix of traditional Linux start scripts and our own. 
The traditional ones are from the Linux From Scratch project, so 
you could refer to their documentation

Cheyenne has no traditional Linux packaging, so it's in the Syllable 
format. You can make your own resource package in the same format 
to add extra start scripts in a modular way. You would add a package 
directory under /resources/:

cd /resources

s mkdir my-package

Start scripts go into an extra subdirectory:

/resources/my-package/tasks/

Most start scripts such as for a server would go here:

/resources/my-package/tasks/start/

In some cases you need to set extra variables in the user's environment. 
A script for that would go here:

/resources/my-package/tasks/setup/

Once the directory structure is set up, a most common start script 
could be edited like this:

s mcedit /resources/my-package/start/my-package.sh

Once all the files are in the package, you need to register it:

s package register my-package

It's then symlinked into the main package pool. You can see all the 
registered Syllable-style start scripts here:

ll /resources/index/tasks/start/

All those start scripts are called during system startup from the 
Linux From Scratch start scripts

The setup scripts are called from /etc/profile, so typically at system 
startup and at each user log-in into a console shell

Sorry, forgot the tasks directory in the start script:

/resources/my-package/tasks/start/my-package.sh

Thanks, that's very helpful.

I will be documenting the installation and task configuration procedures 
as part of my project. The installation will be specific to our hardware. 
I will probably be able to roll that back to the Syllable community 
in some form.

That would be very nice

I've upgraded the Try REBOL website

The Linux is now a graphical development version based on Syllable 
Server 0.4. Cheyenne is much newer, almost the latest version. REBOL 
3 is much newer, the latest version for Linux, which is Alpha 99

http://tryrebol.esperconsultancy.nl/

Looks good. Very snappy.

How is the graphical version of Server coming along?

What kind of hardware is "Try REBOL" running on?

PC ... of some kind :-)

Kaj - what is the vitality of Syllable project? Still the same team 
size, etc.?

No, it's always changing over the years, but generally, the size 
is still the same

For example, the first goal for a graphical server was to port the 
Syllable Desktop GUI to Server, but that project is stalled for the 
moment being because the developer is gone

So the easiest way to do it now is to just use X11, which we eventually 
needed to have, anyway

So the current graphical development version of Server uses X11 and 
the ROX desktop, installed from GoboLinux binaries for now because 
that's also a faster route

But using binaries from others gives you less control over them, 
so there are integration problems that mean the quality is not high 
enough yet to release this Syllable version

That snappy Try REBOL site is running on an old 650 MHz Pentium 3 
with 128 MB of memory. :-) The website itself is quite inefficient 
compared to regular sites, because each REBOL evaluation request 
needs to be run in its own Linux process under a separate user account 
for security

There are also other websites running on that machine. In general, 
Cheyenne makes them quite responsive. For example, it responds very 
well to a heavily loaded machine. You can fully load the machine 
with other tasks without noticing it in the responsiveness of the 
websites. In my mind, this is quite like the general behaviour of 
Syllable Desktop and earlier systems such as BeOS and Amiga

To see for yourself, try

call "uname -a"

the compare function is really cool  :-)

Thanks. :-) I thought it would be a nice touch

Very nice Kaj.

Kaj, is Ruud Kuin still involved with the Syllable project? I see 
that he produced the newsletter for a while.

Is Kristian Van Der Vliet still leading the software development? 
Besides yourself, I'm just wondering who is currently leading the 
Syllable project.

Kristian has been away since early this year, so I'm currently leading 
the project

Ruud is watching from a distance. Like most people, he was surpsised 
by the time and effort it takes to develop a project like this. When 
he didn't get the contributions he had hoped for his newsletters, 
he decided to take a step back

So it almost seems, like it is turning into being a few man show? 
Kind of AROS syndrome?

Always has been, as I told many times

Syllable was never big, because it never had a legacy system and 
community to build on