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[Syllable] The free desktop and server operating system family

Kaj
23-Sep-2008
[1764]
Some ideas take many months to implement
shadwolf
23-Sep-2008
[1765x2]
yes ... ans PSP is worst than a eee PC ...
I mean in the scope of closed hardwar unstandard etc... pda and portable 
consoles like PSP  or DS are a master scale
BrianH
23-Sep-2008
[1767]
He tried Syllable Desktop.
Kaj
23-Sep-2008
[1768]
The install CD or the live CD?
BrianH
23-Sep-2008
[1769x2]
Install CD I think.

It seems to me that different VM platforms require thinner or thicker 
guest additions. VirtualBox seems to require more out of its guest 
code, and works quite badly without it. VMware doesn't require as 
much out of its guest code, so that code is easier to implement, 
and the VM works OK without it.
I told him that you had said that the installer doesn't work very 
well.
Kaj
23-Sep-2008
[1771]
It just needs one or two kernel boot options that aren't on the current 
install CD. He should read the VirtualBox section in our FAQ, or 
use the development build
BrianH
23-Sep-2008
[1772x2]
Those thicker VirtualBox guest additions make the guest a more civilized 
client of the host OS, but without them it doesn't work well.
I tend to need the Server stuff more (auto startup, headless operation, 
remote console), so I don't use VirtualBox myself, nor do I have 
an available computer on which I can install VirtualBox, since all 
compatible computers I own have VMware Server installed, even this 
laptop.
Graham
23-Sep-2008
[1774]
you can co-install virtualbox
BrianH
23-Sep-2008
[1775]
I don't want to - I have enough overhead as it is.
Graham
23-Sep-2008
[1776]
it only takes up hard drive space!
BrianH
23-Sep-2008
[1777x2]
How many virtual network adapters do I need to configure? How many 
bridges? How many DHCP and NAT services?
On this laptop I already have 4 virtual network adapters, 2 physical, 
1 bridge, one DHCP service and 1 NAT. Adding VirtualBox would mean 
adding 1 more virtual adapter, 1 bridge or Internet Connection Sharing 
(another DHCP/NAT service), either of which I would have to reconnect 
manually depending on which physical adapter I am using.
Graham
23-Sep-2008
[1779]
ahhh....
Graham
28-Sep-2008
[1780x2]
Can Syllable run things like vbulletin ?  Needs php and mysql
And can syllable be installed on to such places as slicehost ?
Kaj
28-Sep-2008
[1782x3]
Syllable is now also listed in the distributions list of LWN:
http://lwn.net/Distributions/
Syllable Server can basically run anything Linux can run, but for 
many things there are no binary packages yet
Graham
28-Sep-2008
[1785]
so, you have to compile yourself ?
Kaj
28-Sep-2008
[1786x5]
Yes, according to the regular instructions of a package for Linux
We have a build recipe for PHP, which standardises the procedure, 
but I haven't tried it on Syllable Server yet
You could install Apache for PHP according to the Syllable Server 
manual
If you want to run PHP on Cheyenne, you have to patch it according 
to the Cheyenne instructions
Syllable Server should be fairly easy to install on Slicehost. It 
is my first target for running my own cloud server, so when I get 
to that I will write specific instructions
Graham
28-Sep-2008
[1791]
Please do ... I'll wait till then ... as I don't want any arrows 
in my back!
Kaj
28-Sep-2008
[1792]
You could play the snake, divide the Indians among themselves and 
run the Boa web server. :-) We have a build recipe for it
Graham
28-Sep-2008
[1793]
wrong continent
Pekr
29-Sep-2008
[1794]
Graham - why would you not use some linux distro out there? This 
is nothing against Syllable, but if they are mostly beta, there is 
plenty of Linux distros out there, no? Even some small and stripped 
down ones ...
Graham
29-Sep-2008
[1795x2]
got a point there!
called living on the edge :)
Kaj
29-Sep-2008
[1797]
Which ones have all the REBOL stuff integrated?
Graham
3-Oct-2008
[1798]
Looks like Ubuntu are aiming at the vm hosting platform as well http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/jeos
Kaj
3-Oct-2008
[1799]
Yes, I may have mentioned JeOS here. It's been out for about a year
Oldes
28-Oct-2008
[1800]
Is it possible to install Syllable on bootable SD card?
Kaj
28-Oct-2008
[1801x3]
Depends
If it is connected through an IDE interface, it should work just 
like a hard disk
If it is connected through a USB interface, like on the Asus EeePC 
for example, you may hit bugs in our USB support
BrianH
28-Oct-2008
[1804]
Assuming that interface is bootable on the computer in question, 
or course.
Kaj
28-Oct-2008
[1805x3]
Yes, that, too
In any case, if you want to try you need our development build
But that currently has a nasty binary incompatibility, so if you 
get it installed, you may not be able to run some other software
Kaj
9-Nov-2008
[1808x3]
The Dutch website of Software Freedom Day is now running on Syllable 
Server and Cheyenne:
http://softwarefreedom.nl/
It was already made with my REBOL CMS
Anton
9-Nov-2008
[1811]
Page loads nice and quick.
Kaj
9-Nov-2008
[1812x2]
Thanks. We made sure it would by having static pages, but on the 
other hand, the connection is not overly powerful at 10 Mb/s
The server is just a P3 650 MHz with 128 MB memory and an old 8 GB 
disk