World: r3wp

well, until the vm is released :)

I know. I didn't take it out, though

didn't take out what?

The installer. It just doesn't exist :-)

will you write an orca installer?  Or rebol one?

A new ORCA one, combined with Syllable Desktop

so, no gui then?

Syllable GUI on Desktop, maybe a remote REBOL GUI on Server

A rebol gui thru ssh to the server?

No, REBOL/Services

interesting

do you have time for a day job?

Doing it all properly :-)

Haven't had for years, but will have to make time for it now

Getting good responses on the conferences

Kaj, please make a XEN DomU out of it. I will give it immediatly 
a try. I'm searching for a base distro that can be used to create 
a complete application stack.

Uhm, I'll have to find out how to make that, first :-)

What we have been producing so far are VMware images that can be 
used in several virtualisers, with an unchanged Syllable Server installation

I think a Xen image would require the Syllable Server installation 
to support Xen in the kernel. Is that correct?

It will be extra work to figure this out, so it will take me some 
more time

or Robert can switch to using vmware.

Yeah :-)

How's the dovecot port going?  :)

Not. I'm still on the road

On the first conference we were invited to a 3D virtual worlds conference 
tomorrow in Amsterdam, with the ex CEO of Linden Labs and a university 
developing OpenCroquet speaking :-)

Don't road warriors carry laptops with them?  :)

http://www.eduverse.org

Yeah, but ten year old laptops take a week to compile a modern Linux 
distro

a conference on virtual worlds should have their conference in a 
virtual world

They're nice for running Syllable and REBOL, though, and demoing 
their efficiency

opencroquet? the squeak project?

Yup

what did you think?

I agree, and I thought of the irony that people in Amsterdam want 
everything to happen in Amsterdam

I guess they couldn't decide which platform to use

I explained to them that REBOL is symbol based versus Smalltalk being 
object based, which makes it fundamentally more suitable for DSLs, 
and they understood right away

so, what's the relationship to 3D?

Virtual worlds are 3D these days

I meant Syllable

So it will still be a challenge to offer them REBOL solutions

Everyone I met on the conferences is building applications out of 
multiple diverse open source parts. I'm offering all of them to solve 
their integration issues by taking the boring parts out of their 
hands and integrating them in a custom Linux platform

They're all very interested

ok

kaj asus EEE PC  is your friend  ^^

A friend of mine was having difficulty installing Syllable the other 
day. He runs VirtualBox, because he has had more luck with that than 
VMware Server. I explained why there would be differences between 
the two, but it would still be nice for both to be supported. I realize 
that there is not as much point to supporting VirtualBox as it is 
more like VMware Workstation, not Server. Still, it has better memory 
allocation characteristics than VMware.

He has a recent enough processor that it has virtualization extensions, 
so VirtualBox isn't bad on it.

VirtualBox is weird. It has problems running Syllable and it has 
bad performance characteristics

It should work, though, but did he use the VirtualBox boot option?

Did he try Syllable Desktop or Syllable Server?

What were the symptoms and failure messages?