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[Syllable] The free desktop and server operating system family
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Kaj 6-Oct-2007 [1193] | We don't do timezone database updates yet, but we've been discussing it |
Graham 6-Oct-2007 [1194x2] | my rebelBB.cgi script has stopped working |
because the imap server thinks the time is wrong and keeps shutting down :( | |
Kaj 6-Oct-2007 [1196] | Yet another REBOL bulletin board? :-) |
Graham 6-Oct-2007 [1197] | Yep .. French one |
Kaj 6-Oct-2007 [1198] | Of course I'm planning my own :-) |
Graham 6-Oct-2007 [1199] | uses an IMAP server to store the messages |
Kaj 6-Oct-2007 [1200] | Integrating with legacy stuff always brings headaches |
Graham 6-Oct-2007 [1201] | perhaps I should just use UTC and forget about it |
Kaj 6-Oct-2007 [1202] | I can already see why I wouldn't want to use that one |
Graham 6-Oct-2007 [1203x2] | I think it's just a very finicky imap server .. dovecut .. that I picked |
dovecot | |
Kaj 6-Oct-2007 [1205] | Years ago I chose Cyrus. Not sure if that's still the best |
Graham 6-Oct-2007 [1206] | How about a vmware image ?? |
Kaj 6-Oct-2007 [1207] | My project leader is working on it, but we're going to release images a few days later |
Graham 6-Oct-2007 [1208x3] | Cool .. |
I can wait for that. | |
Include Rebol and Cheyenne :) | |
Kaj 6-Oct-2007 [1211] | Core is included. I've never tried Cheyenne yet. Is it hard to set up? |
Graham 6-Oct-2007 [1212x2] | no, runs out of the box |
I presume that you don't have Apache? | |
Kaj 6-Oct-2007 [1214x2] | Yes, an Apache package is linked from the README |
How big is Cheyenne? Does it require Apache? | |
Graham 6-Oct-2007 [1216x3] | few hundred kbs |
and no, doesn't need Apache | |
Might inspire doc to finish the web console if you release it as the default web server :) | |
Kaj 6-Oct-2007 [1219] | OK. It's not really something that qualifies for our criteria to ship in the base system. We wouldn't include Apache, but most of the REBOL stuff is so tiny that we might as well throw it in :-) |
Graham 6-Oct-2007 [1220] | I use Cheyenne for my web portal .. works fine. |
Kaj 6-Oct-2007 [1221x2] | I'll put it on my list to look into. I think it would qualify as an operating system grade extension |
Normally we ship those in middleware collections of packages, but that's a size consideration | |
Graham 6-Oct-2007 [1223] | Uniserve and Cheyenne are 500kb zipped |
Kaj 6-Oct-2007 [1224] | Not tiny, but smaller than many fonts :-) |
Kaj 7-Oct-2007 [1225x2] | It has reached OSNews: |
http://osnews.com/story.php/18733/First-Syllable-Server-Development-Release | |
Kaj 17-Oct-2007 [1227x2] | We created a bunch of virtual machine images, so you can try Syllable Server easily in an emulator without installing it: |
http://osnews.com/story.php/18774/Syllable-Server-Emulator-Images | |
Gregg 18-Oct-2007 [1229] | Cool. |
Kaj 19-Oct-2007 [1230] | Thanks. Did you try it? |
Alan 19-Oct-2007 [1231] | I did and VMPlayer would not start it ? |
Gregg 19-Oct-2007 [1232] | Not yet, I'm buried. |
Kaj 20-Oct-2007 [1233x2] | Alan, what exactly happened? Did you try the VMware option from the start menu? |
We made the image with VMware Workstation and are running it in VMPlayer | |
Graham 20-Oct-2007 [1235x2] | only one peer in the swarm .. might as well do an http download from your S3 storage! |
That was a short experiment. I tried to open up the file in Ubuntu, and it said it was an unrecognized file type ( .7z ). | |
Kaj 20-Oct-2007 [1237x2] | Yeah, but if we get published somewhere, the swarm will nicely reduce our costs, such as on our initial release |
The README has full instructions on unpacking and everything else. You do have to read it, of course | |
Graham 20-Oct-2007 [1239x2] | Wouldn't it be simpler to just provide the file in a format that most systems understand without having download another piece of software just for this purpose .. which then ruins the advantage of using an obscure compression system because you save a few bytes? |
me .. just a user | |
Kaj 21-Oct-2007 [1241x2] | Well, you questioned our downloading infrastructure. 7-Zip compression is a part of that. Without it, our system packages are about 50% bigger. When we get hit by a large publication, that will make a serious difference in our costs |
And it's not obscure. It's based on LZMA compression, and 7-Zip is an incredibly popular implementation: | |
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