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[Syllable] The free desktop and server operating system family
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Kaj 22-Aug-2007 [1108] | Can't say I blame Thom. He's been good with us |
Robert 24-Aug-2007 [1109] | Kaj, can you give me a management summary about the differences Syllable Server / Desktop? |
Kaj 24-Aug-2007 [1110x2] | Yes: Server runs on Linux, while Desktop has its own kernel and filesystem |
Server currently doesn't have the Syllable GUI yet, but it will come | |
Robert 24-Aug-2007 [1112x2] | Why not use the desktop kernel and FS for the server side too? |
I mean, what's the benefit of getting a server based on the linux kernel? Than I can use Linux right from the start. | |
Kaj 24-Aug-2007 [1114x4] | Because they were designed for desktop services. Linux is continuously optimized as a server |
Also, Linux is stable now, not a few years from now | |
And it has software that also takes time to port to Desktop | |
Of course you can use Linux, but what is Linux? We are providing a Linux, and we think it will be a damn fine one | |
Graham 24-Aug-2007 [1118x2] | what I would like to see is a server linux that runs vmware out of the box |
without having to keep recompiing the kernel | |
Kaj 24-Aug-2007 [1120] | Ubuntu and others do |
Graham 24-Aug-2007 [1121] | not without some work |
Kaj 24-Aug-2007 [1122] | I'm currently integrating QEmu |
Graham 24-Aug-2007 [1123x3] | various how toos ... |
qemu ? run windows 20003 on that? | |
I saw a how to on that somewhere | |
Kaj 24-Aug-2007 [1126] | Sure |
Graham 24-Aug-2007 [1127] | to run 2003 on ec2 I think |
Kaj 24-Aug-2007 [1128x4] | Yeah, such combinations are interesting |
We're on OSNews again (well, we haven't been off the front page for a few weeks), this time with our new Syllable Newsletter: | |
http://osnews.com/story.php/18508/Revived-Syllable-Newsletter-Published | |
There are mentions of REBOL and AROS in there | |
Kaj 10-Sep-2007 [1132x2] | Our provider went belly up, and I'm now rewriting our site in REBOL: |
http://syllable.org | |
Kaj 6-Oct-2007 [1134x6] | The time has arrived! We have released Syllable Server |
It's a development release. A lot of work remains to be done in the time to come, but I made sure it's usable for several things already | |
It doesn't have the Syllable graphical environment yet, but it can run graphical SDL and DirectFB programs | |
That includes emulators. QEmu is included, so you can run many other operating systems on Server, including itself | |
The system is very small, so it's suitable both as a virtualisation host and as a virtualisation guest | |
Both REBOL/Core and ORCA are included | |
Graham 6-Oct-2007 [1140] | When is the GUI due ? |
Kaj 6-Oct-2007 [1141] | I'm going to pull an R3 on you and say When It's Ready :-) |
Graham 6-Oct-2007 [1142] | end of 2008 then? |
Kaj 6-Oct-2007 [1143] | The first phase, building the base Linux, was mine. Now it's up to our project leader to port the Syllable stuff. I think I'm going to push him like we push Carl. :-) Actually, I'm hoping he will feel the pressure from people like you asking for it :-) |
Graham 6-Oct-2007 [1144] | yeah .. some of us are too old to remember command line arguments and tool usage |
Kaj 6-Oct-2007 [1145x2] | I'm actually forced to learn Linux now ;-) |
I'm fairly sure I'm the first person in the world to build a Linux without caring much for it :-) | |
Graham 6-Oct-2007 [1147] | a html version of the readme would be nice :) |
Kaj 6-Oct-2007 [1148] | Yeah, but that belongs in a somewhat long-term grand plan to design our documentation framework |
Graham 6-Oct-2007 [1149] | use a wiki |
Kaj 6-Oct-2007 [1150x2] | No, there's noone but me for some time to come who could write this documentation |
I've actually had a REBOL HTML generator for years, I just need to wrap it up and it wasn't worth postponing Server for | |
Graham 6-Oct-2007 [1152x2] | reading txt files in a browser is very tricky |
understanding Brenno de Winter's article is even harder | |
Kaj 6-Oct-2007 [1154x3] | It can easily be downloaded into a line-wrapping viewer |
That's a problem of a different order: learn Dutch :-) | |
Anyway, I'vejust replaced our website with my own REBOL content management system, so the documentation plan has been set in motion | |
Graham 6-Oct-2007 [1157] | Yet Another Rebol Content Management System ? |
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