World: r3wp

Nice, Kaj!

The translated live CDs we have been working on are now available. 
We have another article on OSNews with this and some other goodies:

http://osnews.com/story.php/18316/Translated-Syllable-Live-CDs

Videos of Syllable 0.6.4 and Syllable Server, for those who are interested:

http://osnews.com/story.php/18470/Syllable-Server-Video-Demonstration

Kaj, I downloaded the latest version as VMWare and used it on the 
Mac. Very cool :-))

This thing must really be a time killer... a nice one of course.

Thanks. It sure is. On the other hand, around the time we started, 
five years ago, I and others spent so much time fixing Linux that 
we independently sort of decided that it wouldn't really take more 
time to spend it on developing  our own operating system. It certainly 
leaves us with a lot more to show for all that time

Well, both Linux and Windows, really. The Windows situation is still 
roughly the same. Linux has improved a lot over that time, but only 
to reach about the same levels as Windows

Amiga software runs on Syllable now :-)

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well, it could have been a guru meditation

Hm...

Soory, forgot to upload the JPG version I made. It's there now

S3 storage?

Yup :-)

I might also mention that, a few days ago, I also ran AROS on Syllable 
Server. On Bochs, similar to how I did on Syllable Desktop a few 
weeks ago

Kaj, it seems to me, that even osnews.com audience is slowly warming 
up to the Syllable, don't you think? :-) At least response is vital 
....

Yeah. We had to make an awful lot of effort for our PR campaign of 
the last months, though, to make it happen

what do you mean by effort?

As for me, I tried to contact Tom Halwerda one year ago, when RT 
announced they are developing R3. He refused to publish it. I then 
objected, that they are posting much less important newsbits from 
various other communities, but he said that mainstream systems as 
Win, OS-X have some priviledge ...

News events every other day and articles to go with them on OSNews 
don't get created by the fairies overnight

Unless I'm a fairy, that is...

I hope this time, once R3 beta is out, they will not hesitate to 
post about it. And I also think, that Syllable helped REBOL on osnews 
a bit. Because if OS designers decided to use such language, it ought 
to be rather good :-)

I suspect Thom's objection was mainly that you wanted him to publish 
it a year before there was any new product :-)

That's what I mean, we have been consistently producing real news

I don't agree though. IIRC interview with Guido about upcoming P3 
was there. P3 development has started just recently, and is due to 
be finished next summer .....

Don't worry, though, R3 will be mentioned on OSNews in Syllable articles 
:-)

Dunno, we were just contacted by the Python crew about Syllable support 
in P3. It's for real. You can never know that with a closed-source 
company - especially not one from the Amiga scene...

Can't say I blame Thom. He's been good with us

Kaj, can you give me a management summary about the differences Syllable 
Server / Desktop?

Yes: Server runs on Linux, while Desktop has its own kernel and filesystem

Server currently doesn't have the Syllable GUI yet, but it will come

Why not use the desktop kernel and FS for the server side too?

I mean, what's the benefit of getting a server based on the linux 
kernel? Than I can use Linux right from the start.

Because they were designed for desktop services. Linux is continuously 
optimized as a server

Also, Linux is stable now, not a few years from now

And it has software that also takes time to port to Desktop

Of course you can use Linux, but what is Linux? We are providing 
a Linux, and we think it will be a damn fine one

what I would like to see is a server linux that runs vmware out of 
the box

without having to keep recompiing the kernel

Ubuntu and others do

not without some work

I'm currently integrating QEmu

various how toos ...

qemu ?  run windows 20003 on that?

I saw a how to on that somewhere

Sure

to run 2003 on ec2 I think