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Maxim 25-Jan-2005 [1x5] | can someone tell me if they are also getting erratic behavior from the (EXCELLENT!) mySql Client from DocKimbel ? |
I have been doing selects and have about 1% failure rate... | |
it gives me an access denied error, from the mysql server, yet I am right in the midst of a heavy bunch of requests... | |
we are using v4 of mySql ... | |
I was thinking there might be a timeout value which is set a little too short, but I am such a neophyte when it comes to tweaking ports and with mySql in general... | |
Terry 25-Jan-2005 [6] | I was having the exact same problem the other day. |
Maxim 25-Jan-2005 [7] | did you find a solution? |
Terry 25-Jan-2005 [8x3] | I tried a manual "wait" between requests, but would still choke. |
no | |
Or actually yeah.. I'm going flat file ;) | |
Maxim 25-Jan-2005 [11] | he he... |
Terry 25-Jan-2005 [12] | Look at my conversation in the All group.. late Saturday night.. early sunday morning |
Maxim 25-Jan-2005 [13] | hum, I am calling wait 0.01 pretty often within the script to allow the asynchronous rebol core some breathing time which REALLY rocks btw... scanning multiple dirs, while letting the UI and mySql to work at the same time , I'd not be able to get it running so easily in any other language.... :-) |
Dockimbel 25-Jan-2005 [14] | I've also noticed some "access error" messages from the server under heavy loads. A possible solution is to make connections persistent to avoid the open/close overhead for each request. This should solve most of these kind of issues. |
DideC 25-Jan-2005 [15] | Sadly, it's not usable for CGI :-( |
Dockimbel 25-Jan-2005 [16] | CGI are slow, I'm not sure that you can easily overload a MySQL server that way. Did anyone experienced such issues (access deny errors) from CGI ? |
Gabriele 25-Jan-2005 [17x4] | there's some 1% of failures for me to. so far, it hasn't been a great problem. but, surely it would be great to be able to solve this issue. |
doc: to me it happens with completely unloaded server too | |
i just have a retry button in my apps so that's not a problem - but sometimes you need to press it. | |
on cgi this is more annoying; it happened a couple times on the detective builder web interface too. | |
JaimeVargas 25-Jan-2005 [21] | Off topic question. Is there a way to access the result block of query using the field names? Kind of an object for the cursor? |
Dockimbel 25-Jan-2005 [22x2] | Ok, I'll give it a deeper look when I'll release the next version. |
I have Cheyenne and UniServe releases pending in the pipe, mysql:// update is next on my list. | |
Gabriele 25-Jan-2005 [24] | Jaime: i have functions to do that, you'll find them in the mysql-wrapper.r script that comes with mysql-protocol.r |
DideC 25-Jan-2005 [25] | Like Gabriele, I have sometimes error with CGI connecting MySql but the server seems to not be loaded. |
JaimeVargas 25-Jan-2005 [26] | Thanks Gabriele. |
Dockimbel 25-Jan-2005 [27] | Didec, does it happen with a single connection attempt or when you retry several times (sending lot of connection requests to the server in a small delay) ? |
Gabriele 25-Jan-2005 [28] | in my case, single connection attempt. |
Dockimbel 25-Jan-2005 [29] | Interesting. Thanks Gab. |
DideC 25-Jan-2005 [30x2] | I think so. I should add that I have no problem on my Win2k3 server, but only on the Linux ISP host !! |
But the Win server and the client are on the LAN 100Mbits | |
Graham 25-Jan-2005 [32] | so, as long as you have an open connection, there is no problem? |
Dockimbel 25-Jan-2005 [33] | Right, the problem is to get connected to the server. Sometimes, the server reject the connection attempt. If you successfully connect and keep the connection opened, there should be no problem AFAIK. |
Graham 25-Jan-2005 [34x2] | Good. I think was thinking of porting my portal server over from odbc to mysql:// |
Got a problem where the server app while in a wait state jumps to 50% cpu, and memory jumps from 4Mb to 30Mb .. using rugby. | |
rolf 25-Jan-2005 [36] | On a persistent connection I had only problems when firing requests from a scroller driven list. A simple construction to prevent concurrent requests solved the problem: if not dbBusy [ dbBusy: true mydata: db-read-page fields table start pgLen show mylist dbBusy: false ] |
Gabriele 25-Jan-2005 [37x2] | Rolf: is your db-read-page function using WAIT? |
but, this poses an interesting problem with the new async core... | |
Maxim 25-Jan-2005 [39x6] | Gabriele, I do exactly the same kind of work arounds, in my apps, I just highlight the panes which have failed and include a user-driven "refresh button" but this is not very elegent.. nor is requerying until no error is returned... although I was thinking of adding a persistent requery in my top-level query function. |
The server I am accessing is very quick and in general, it accomplishes its query in micro seconds. so its not really a question of server load... | |
Doc. my very competent db admin, told me that it could simply be an issue that the client is expecting a reply from the sql server too quickly and that it is likely a simple timeout issue. HTH. if there is a way to let the tcp wait a bit more, it could be that the fraction of a second more needed might be all that is required. | |
Doc, for my useage, the access denied error happens 100% randomly. more connections only mean more chances of getting the error, but I've had it fail on the very first connection attempt and have had several thousand go without errors... then I'll have 5 within a 100 ... there really is no pattern I can detect. | |
Gabriel, yes the async core makes it harder to make the core synchronous... | |
my current app is so threaded because of the async core that its impressed everyone at the office... I can be scrolling a list view, reading files doing sql queries and reading directory lists which buildup view menus in real time... everything is fluding and strangely, having sql and a loop browsing through several hundred directories scanning their content is almost unnoticeable !!!!!! scrolling speed goes down by maybe 20%... but network access remains pretty steady... congrats to RT... | |
rolf 26-Jan-2005 [45] | @Gab: no WAIT is used, it is just a wrapper for ease of use. it also selects local db or Rugby |
Gabriele 26-Jan-2005 [46] | rofl: if you have no wait, then i don't see how you could get that code called "concurrently"? |
Dockimbel 26-Jan-2005 [47x4] | Maxime: Thanks for the info. |
Looking at my mysql:// code ('do-handshake and 'read-packet functions), I notice that I didn't use any 'wait to synchronize with the server. Instead it loops on 'read-io until it gets all the data expected which may waste some cpu time. Looking today, I'll say that's not the best way to do that, and the code stability could benefit from a couple of 'wait calls. I should definitely rewrite the low level stuff. | |
Maxim: if you're guessed right on the access denied issue, you should be able to fix it by addind a few 'wait 0.01 to the 'do-handshake function. Put one 'wait just before each call to 'read-packet and if you have time do some tests. | |
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