World: r3wp

the help function I changed requires a separate page for each function 
.... in a specific format.

Petr, if someone ruined the wiki, why aren't the pages being rolled 
back?

Gabriele - very extensive changes, like cutton some docs into small 
pieces

cutton = cutting

right... but you can still roll back to a previous version of each 
page that has been modified...

unless nobody cares, that is.

BrianH: Thanks (for above).  I do think that a wiki with only two 
people editing it is not quite going to demonstrate the potential.

Reichart's idea of each function having a page is a good start.  
But I also think there should be pages for cross-cutting topics that 
are linked to liberally when an issue of one of those functions touches 
upon it.

Ladislav's Bindology is an excellent example--I think--of the kind 
of absolutely critical document that wasn't in Rebol's official documentation. 
 (It's unclear why such a study would not be one of the first things 
done in a language project.)  In any case, I think the wiki is a 
good place to be developing such narratives, and this is something 
I've been pushing for.

Brian... agreed.

Reichart: There was a quote Carl made (he was quoting someone else) 
comparing Rebol to the Matrix as being something "you either get 
or you don't".  On a parallel note, I'd cite the first panel in this 
Xkcd: http://xkcd.com/566/

Look, maybe you just suck at explaining.
  :) :)

I've started some crude articles (and BrianH has earned the diligence 
barnstar for correcting them), but they're nothing compared to what 
they could be if more than two people were poking at them.  http://rebol.net/wiki/Scoping_in_Rebol
  http://rebol.net/wiki/Dialect_Design_Considerationshttp://rebol.net/wiki/The_Invariants_of_Rebol

And since we share a leaning toward an interest in design, I'll share 
the Icon/identity ideas I had: http://rebol.net/wiki/REBOL_logo

Hey Fork, what tool did you use to generate the isometric images? 
 Or what technique?

Brock: Sketchup

The 3D one was rendered by Milan Antovic: http://github.com/hostilefork/rebmu/blob/master/rebmu.r

Er, http://www.elance.com/experts/serbia_vojvodina_vrsac/3d_modeling_animation/1853084

(Clipboard being wonky in AltME for some reason)

I didn't feel like learning any rendering packages so I subcontracted 
that, but it's not a final rendering carefully done... just communicates 
the possibility...

Fork, great articles and ideas :)

I really like the logo, and your scoping article is easily understandable.

Good stuff Fork!

Scoping: 

make-employee: func [name id] [
    employee: make object! compose [
        name: (name) 
        id: (id)
    ]
    return employee
]


'employee isn't declared as local. Is it explicit to make the explanation 
more concrete?

Is camelCase used for a reason, rather than following the standard 
REBOL style?

Fork's icon is very cool.

Glad you guys like it...

I tend to use camelCase for local variables to distinguish them from 
functions, but I don't have particularly strong feelings.  If there 
are Rebol coding standards then perhaps a wiki article describing 
them would be a good project for someone who knows them to undertake 
:)

I hope people put pressure on Rebol 3 having a strong visual message, 
and that graphic design is not ignored.  Thus far it does not seem 
to have been given any attention.  My idea is supposed to be a kick-start 
to that process but not the final answer.

There used to be an official coding "style" guide on rebol.com but 
I wasn't able to find it. It seems to have got lost during the website 
refurbishment.

There's this: http://www.rebol.com/r3/docs/concepts/scripts-style.html

Yes that's it.

I think it would be great if the feel of the graphics on the site, 
and the logo, could match the feel of the GUI. I know GUis will have 
skins and themes, but a consistent message could go a long way. Is 
REBOL mainly a server scripting tool, or is it a slick-UI tool? And 
if View has a different target than REBOL/Command SDK, their icons 
can be themed as such.

Gregg: Perhaps http://www.haiku-os.org/is an example of the kind 
of thing you are talking about.

Yes. Conceptual integrity will help all the way through IMO.

testing. doesn t seem to accept my message

hello does someone have a working script sample of a dsn less odbc 
connection script. I tried the example in the "database reference" 
page, but it doesn't work.

the dsn example works.  However  I need the dsn less to work for 
the piece of code I am trying to do.

Yes. ...

Let me find it ...

see bottom of this page http://www.compkarori.com/vanilla/display/Firebird+Walkthrough

thanks Graham.


this altme thing is very buggy. this is the 10th time I am sending 
almost the same 
message and it is not posting.


does someone have a dsn less odbc connection script for connecting 
to a microsoft access 
database ?

Just look at any example of an access connection string ...

why don't we use a web based forum ?   it would be more reliable 
than this buggy altme ?  I am new to this and I am already having 
a bad impression about the quality of this application.  I have to 
send a message 10 times to get it posted once.

Doesn't happen to me .. so something wrong with your setup.

web forum http://synapse-ehr.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?3-Rebol

not a problem for me either... actually its the first time I hear 
about someone with the problem you describe.

but for some people Altme is very buggy ...

the main issue is the inability to sync with new messages

though I've never had that

(though the sync issue is only for very slow connections AFAIK)

I have a slow connection  . you see ... sending 3rd time .  

i never had a problem posting a message in any browser based forum. 
  which again show the reliability and resiliency of web based forum 
over this altme.