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When REBOL is no longer a clique, more people will will feel like 
they are "welcome" to join in.

That is what the community-run site is for.

It's spam protection

(for the European's here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clique)

That's why we have two wikis, so the manual can become more official, 
like a book. We only want answers in the manual. We have other places 
for questions: The community wiki, chat, CureCode.

clique is a french word Reichart ;-)

REBOL is big in France :)

*hush* :-)

Steve, yes, but...many words in English are French, that does not 
mean they are used the same way.  So I think it wise to post this 
just in case...

clique = to click = to make sound

Steeve...

same meaning here

;-)

Joanna, the reason for that is that REBOL has 3 different types of 
function arguments, and they have different evaluation rules. If 
you want to know how an expression should evaluate you need to know 
what kind of argument it will be going into, if any. The first expression 
evaluated is the one that returns the function value, the a expression 
in your example. Once that expression is evaluated it no longer matters 
what is assigned to 'a, since the function to be called is now referenced 
by DO.

After this month the plan is for "R3 chat" to be an obsolete term, 
since R2 will have it too. Just "chat" I suppose, or DevBase.

That's the plan, at least :)

I checked the result on 2.7.7 and A was as it shoudl be 42 ..  If 
it had been anything else I woudl have noted it as a Bug ..

Thanks for testing that :)

Works in R3 too.

Reichart, CHAT shouldn't be a barrier to entry. We are trying to 
make it more accessible.

CHAT in this case just being the function that brings up a DevBase 
client - it doesn't even implement the client itself.

We're trying to make DevBase more accessible too, with better clients.

?

A bit stange system (adding chartinto programming language).. but 
if it works.

Brian, who is currently working on  a new chat client ?
You annouced that several times but...

Yeah, the only barrier to entry into REBOL development will be the 
need to have a running version of REBOL :)

Brian has volunteered Stevee

ahah, i could give it a try, a studied a lot the source in the past

I plan to write an R2 chat client this month (with as much help as 
is made available). At first it will be a clone of R3 chat, but there 
is nothing in the DevBase server API that requires the clients to 
be in text mode.

Hmm I really shoudl try to use R3 , at least to see that chat..

but i may

... need of a draft about all the api to exchange with the server

some functionalities are still missing to my mind

Awesome Stevee ... it will free up Brian to do other stuff

If you can help, Steeve, or even get started on it yourself, go for 
it. I don't think there is an API doc yet - the API changes too much.

currently we can't download a single message knowing his Id. We only 
can download all the base, and the remaining messages each time the 
client sync. Not a good system to my mind

Hmm.. I think I need to sart a new group here ... "I'm getting old 
and crumpy " :)

Reichart, CHAT shouldn't be a barrier to entry. We are trying to 
make it more accessible.


The key to me here is once Carl "ok"s this one thing, then the rest 
of us can "help".

Joannak, LOL, agreed...

It's kind of graduated to more of an inner circle thing nowadays, 
Reichart, but good point.

Yup, I'm all for facism (truly, I think it has its place, and works), 
but only for moderators to control s/n, not to supress voices.

The new development platforms of REBOL are all moderated.

We try to not suppress voices (except the wiki spammers on the rebol.net).

we
 arleady do by the very nature of the input system...

I'm the co-founder of BIL (www.BILConference.com) , an open conference, 
the rule is "OPEN".  That simple.  Even from teh get go, my co-founders 
started trying to be "open" but controlling others.
It was really interesting... 



But, I STOOD STRONG on, let everyone do anything...  and... it worked, 
REALLY WELL.


That is not to say that as a group (mob) we did not "direct" people 
to help improve the s/n.

(delay, phone call) I agree about the input system, definitely, which 
is one of the reasons I encourage people to write their own chat 
clients. I'm not too good at writing REBOL GUIs, and don't have a 
web server to host a client. DevBase could work very well with a 
web client interface, afaict, if someone wants to write one of those. 
Heck, it's scriptable enough to integrate with Qtask, in theory.

The current chat client interface works well enough for me, but that's 
likely an outlier thing.

I guess what I'm really asking is, why is this not just like MediaWiki 
(which is behind Wikiepedia)?  That simple.

The community wiki is running on MediaWiki.

Are the docs (examples) for all words in REBOL (2, or 3) in that?