World: r3wp

Thanks sqlab, no need to excuse yourself please, your examples are 
great & I learnt a new use for COPY in PARSE. This has made your 
examples clear to me now, so thanks for spending your time helping 
me.  


The problem I have set myself is purely to understand parse more 
clearly so I have enough know-how to write any scripts I need without 
spending all day doing it. That is why I start off anking one question, 
then jump to another question if I don't fully understand the help 
I get.  


I have used parse a fair bit all ready, but limited myself to very 
simple concepts. see http://www.rebol.org/script-information.r?script-name=cisco-extract.r
and marvel that it even works ;-)   Thanks.

I have been reminded that   |skip   is a word  | skip   is OR skip. 
 it is so easy to miss the space between | & skip

Right, I would say that the following snippit is the most educational 
thing I have done with PARSE.  It shows me a lot of things about 
what is happening & validates the construction and use of charsets 
& whatever the 'address block is called.     Thanks everyone for 
your help.

digit: charset [#"0" - #"9"]
address: [1 3 digit "." 1 3 digit "." 1 3 digit "." 1 3 digit]

a: does [prin 'a] b: does [prin 'b] c: does [prin 'c] d: does [prin 
'd] e: does [prin 'e] f: does [prin 'f]
parse/all {1 23 4.5.6.12 222.1.1.1 7 8} [some[

 (a) copy x address (prin x) some[ (b) copy y address break | skip 
 (c)] (print y) | skip (d)
]]
adadadadada4.5.6.12bcb222.1.1.1

why not use block parsing?

parse [ 1 23 4.5.6.12 222.1.1.1 7 8 ] [ integer! integer! tuple! 
tuple! integer! integer! ]

Because he's parsing Cisco config files.

I am just learning everything I can, so knowing about Block Parsing 
sounds good to. tuples! are quite good for IP addresses, but ip addresses 
often need exactly 4 parts. I wonder why there are no datatypes specific 
for networking? e.g. networks & masks & inverse masks and domain 
names. and DNS records.

Mhinsob, if you load an ip address (from a string) you got a tuple, 
so what is different in your request ?
>> type? probe load "1.2.3.4" 
1.2.3.4
== tuple!

Possibly checking that it's a valid IP address?
>> length? 1.2.3.4
== 4
>> length? 1.2.3.4.5
== 5
>> length? 1.2.3.44.5
== 5

early tuples were more restrictive if I recall  (max of lenght 4) 
but then we complained we wanted to use them for more than just networking

You can use up to 10 tuple elements - any higher wouldn't fit into 
an immediate value.

I wonder why there are no datatypes specific for networking?

In general we like our types to be more widely applicable. However, 
we have tuple!, url!, and port!. The rest can be handled by functions.

mhinson, not sure if your using R2 or R3 but if your using R2 then 
you might want to know about get-modes.

>> get-modes tcp:// 'interfaces
== [make object! [
        name: "lo0"
        addr: 127.0.0.1
        netmask: 255.0.0.0
        broadcast: none
        dest-addr...
>> print get-modes tcp:// 'interfaces
name: "lo0"
addr: 127.0.0.1
netmask: 255.0.0.0
broadcast: none
dest-addr: none
flags: [multicast loopback]
name: "if15"
addr: 169.254.102.14
netmask: 255.255.0.0
broadcast: 169.254.255.255
dest-addr: none
flags: [broadcast multicast]
name: "if12"
addr: 192.168.1.105
netmask: 255.255.255.0
broadcast: 192.168.1.255
dest-addr: none
flags: [broadcast multicast]

I don't know what the equivalent in R3 is.

Nothing yet :(

The get-modes looks interesting. Can it produce information about 
any ip address I might give it?  like 172.22.37.55/28 

I suppose that is an example of a very common network address "type"

GET-MODES gets information about ports, not addresses.

Hi. is there a special function to remove the last element of a string 
please? this works, but seems a bit cryptic.
reverse next reverse {a.b.c.}        Thanks.

These avoids the double reversal -- not sure if they are less cryptic:
     head clear  back tail  {a.b.c.}
     head remove back tail {a.b.c.}

Thanks Sunanda. I like clear back tail {a.b.c.}  then I can directly 
modify my string.

Wrapping it in a func makes it less cryptic. :-)

Hi. If I obtain a date from a file and it is a DATE!  what is in 
that date?  for example I know it contains date/month, but can I 
get it to return the month as a string with a leading 0 or anything 
like that?  Or is it up to me to code the formatting I need from 
integer date values? Is this documented anywhere or can I see any 
of the source some how.  Thanks.

There are no built-in date formatting functions that do that. However, 
I'm sure the REBOL.org script library has one :)

Hi Brian, I see some goodies there. What I am doing is too trivial 
to want to link any large blocks of code just for that so I will 
just code the bit I need I think.  I was puzzled because DATE returns 
the info with the month as  a word, but date/month returns an integer, 
so I imagined there must me more to DATE! than just a structure containing 
integers?

documented: do you mean like date/month date/day, etc?

http://www.rebol.com/docs/core23/rebolcore-16.html#section-3.2

Hi Ladislav, yes. or any other bits of information attached to dtae 
types

(I found a couple of errors in the text)

seems, it was changed recently

the file http://www.rebol.com/r3/docs/datatypes/date.htmllooks like 
being affected too

>> d: now
== 5-Jul-2009/10:36:09+12:00
>> d/1
== 2009
>> d/2
== 7
>> d/3
== 5

though it's 4th of July for you guys ...

not for me anymore

Thanks...  I can work with that information, but I am curious as 
to how referencing the whole date gives Jul  but there seems no option 
fot the month as a word.... not that I want it, but I am curious 
how that works.

>> d: now
== 5-Jul-2009/0:36:25+1:00

not applying to those guys who should be asleep!

LOL

which reminds me .. date functions should have a /utc refinement 
:)

I write my best code in the middle of the night with no PC... shame 
it is all forgotton by the morning, or written on toilet pater.

Happy 753rd year of independence (source: wikipedia, apparently):
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/50902

mhinson .. look at the locale

753 years ???

Check the article, graham.

>> probe system/locale
make object! [
    months: [
        "January" "February" "March" "April" "May" "June"

        "July" "August" "September" "October" "November" "December"
    ]
    days: [

        "Monday" "Tuesday" "Wednesday" "Thursday" "Friday" "Saturday" "Sunday"
    ]
]

Gavin Menzies, the english "historian" claims the americas were "discovered" 
by a chinese fleet in 1421 ...

>> d: now
== 5-Jul-2009/0:42:01+2:00
>> pick system/locale/days d/weekday
== "Sunday"
>> pick system/locale/months d/month
== "July"

Discovery means less and less every day :(

I'll only trust wikipedia when they put the "a" back in ... as wikipaedia

WTF ... did Ladislav's time zone undergo a shift  ... or is he flying 
??