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| Steeve 15-May-2009 [2572x3] | but y |
You know Brian, you can be a good programmer even without knowing Rebol :-) | |
but i agree, it's an heavy handicap to not knowing Rebol | |
| BrianH 15-May-2009 [2575] | Yup. And you can have bad moments even if you are a good programmer. That's what this group is for :) |
| Steeve 15-May-2009 [2576] | nobody is perfect |
| BrianH 15-May-2009 [2577] | I resemble that remark :) |
| Pekr 15-May-2009 [2578] | Ladislav put nice additions to DLL interfacing ... this should make wrapping more flexible ... |
| Maxim 15-May-2009 [2579] | it would be nice to be able to use the information they contain in the resource parts, basically auto-describing the dll themselves... and use class members... in some way or another. |
| BrianH 15-May-2009 [2580] | We should really be talking about this in !REBOL3. |
| Maxim 15-May-2009 [2581] | isn't it annyoing to be told to stay on-topic !!??!?! ;-) |
| BrianH 15-May-2009 [2582] | I only do it here. In R3 chat I move the messages. |
| Maxim 15-May-2009 [2583] | I really need to get my R3 chat setup... I'm fearing loosing to much time if I start chatting there... |
| BrianH 15-May-2009 [2584] | I thought you had an account. |
| Steeve 15-May-2009 [2585x2] | it's incredible how many people we never saw there are registered in R3 chat 1 admin Administrator 17d [admin rank 2 Carl Carl Sassenrath 4:04h [rank 80] 3 BrianH Brian Hawley 0:14h [rank 70] 4 Henrik Henrik Mikael Kristensen 0:05h [rank 70] 5 btiffin Brian Tiffin 3d [rank 40] 6 pekr Petr Krenzelok 0:23h [rank 50] 7 feeds Remote feeds 0:43h [rank 10] 8 Giuseppe Giuseppe Chillemi 29:04h [rank 40] 9 Oldes David 'Oldes' Oliva 0:01h [rank 50] 10 richard Richard Westlake 29:59h [rank 50] 11 Graham Graham Chiu 76d [rank 50] 12 tester Example Tester 73d [rank 10] 13 Jerry Jerry Tsai 83d [rank 50] 14 Sunanda Sunanda 11:34h [rank 50] 15 Kaj Kaj de Vos 41d [rank 50] 16 DideC Didier Cadieu 36:48h [rank 50] 17 maarten Maarten Koopmans 102d [rank 50] 18 rebolek Boleslav Brezovsky 61:27h [rank 50] 19 Robert Robert M. Münch 6:30h [rank 50] 20 DocKimbel Nenad Rakocevic 111d [rank 50] 21 cyphre Richard Smolak 16d [rank 50] 22 giesse Gabriele Santilli 122d [rank 50] 23 Gregg Gregg Irwin 3:35h [rank 50] 24 Brent Brent Fessler 51:13h [rank 50] 25 Edgar Edgar Tolentino 52d [rank 50] 26 acook A. Cook 122d [rank 30] 27 Allen Allen Kamp 58d [rank 40] 28 Steeve Steeve Antoine 0:01h [rank 40] 29 warp Will Arp 99d [rank 40] 30 joshua Joshua Shireman 109d [rank 40] 31 Paul Paul Tretter 12d [rank 40] 32 mick nicolas schmidt 92d [rank 30] 33 PeterWood Peter W A Wood 4:54h [rank 40] 34 sean Sean C. Johnson 5:32h [rank 40] 36 fergus Alan Macleod 11d [rank 30] 37 sqlab A.Reisacher 3:17h [rank 40] 38 qwerty michal tarkowski 60:38h [rank 40] 42 ErosZ Eros Zoltan 108d [rank 5] 44 RobertS Robert Shiplett 26:44h [rank 40] 45 rchifflet G. Robert Shiplett 108d [rank 30] 46 perekk Perekk 28d [rank 30] 47 whispa Jon 108d [rank 30] 48 manum Manuel Moreno 22:10h [rank 40] 49 mchean Michael Chean 18d [rank 40] 50 claude ramier claude 108d [rank 30] 52 kib2 kibleur christophe 56d [rank 40] 53 adrians Adrian Sampaleanu 40:37h [rank 40] 54 jocko Joseph Colineau 37:56h [rank 40] 55 ken Kenneth Collins 3d [rank 40] 56 kealist Joshua Shireman 76d [rank 40] 57 abolka Andreas Bolka 3d [rank 40] 58 icarii James Marsden 16d [rank 40] 59 Ammon Ammon Johnson 19d [rank 40] 60 jimrichard Jim Richards 70d [rank 30] 61 garya G A 74d [rank 30] 62 pavel Pavel Kebort 7:36h [rank 40] 63 franck Franck Le Bihan 23d [rank 30] 64 claudebe ramcla 43d [rank 30] 65 Geomol John Niclasen 22d [rank 40] 66 arthur Arthur Chang 10:10h [rank 40] 67 zap Ben Brannen 25:28h [rank 40] 68 gerard gerard cote 61d [rank 40] 69 gagee gagee 73d [rank 30] 70 horscht Reinhard Hochstein 72d [rank 20] 71 hasy darek 72d [rank 20] 72 nicka Nick Antonaccio 72d [rank 40] 73 rebkodeur Oehler 72d [rank 20] 74 scottt Scott Thode 31d [rank 40] 75 patrickp61 Patrick Potter 27:50h [rank 40] 76 iho Ingo Hohmann 16d [rank 40] 77 bobik Robert Paluch 69d [rank 20] 78 cipri ciprian 42d [rank 30] 79 shadwolf Alphé Salas-schumann 16d [rank 20] 80 cwardell Charles Wardell 67d [rank 20] 81 ernst Ernst Niska 5d [rank 40] 82 rod Rod Gaither 66d [rank 40] 83 digipal digipal 66d [rank 20] 84 awi awi prayitno 8d [rank 30] 85 rich Richard Blundell 60d [rank 40] 86 onetom Herman Tamás 45d [rank 20] 87 anton Anton Rolls 5d [rank 40] 88 jjmmes jose 59d [rank 20] 89 nicolas longjacket 58d [rank 20] 90 blazs Blaz Segavac 7d [rank 30] 91 tw00167789 Liou ChinMing 7d [rank 20] 92 cindy Cindy Sassenrath 52d [rank 60] 93 ssandrew andrewng 47d [rank 20] 94 mario Mario Cassani 46d [rank 20] 95 th72 Tim Hendriks 46d [rank 20] 96 JohanAR Johan Aires Rastén 4d [rank 30] 97 philippe Philippe LE GOFF 44d [rank 20] 98 fatemanme jonathan 43d [rank 20] 99 wffsg2008 examele tester 43d [rank 20] 100 tk neo 37d [rank 30] 101 bardo bardonnenche 42d [rank 20] 102 minkui minkui cai 40d [rank 20] 103 mikoden Nicolas Schmidt 12d [rank 30] 104 fraya Fernando Raya 23d [rank 20] 105 nicolasf Nicolas Fournier 31d [rank 30] 106 goldevil Karim El Founas 39d [rank 20] 107 louis Louis A. Turk 38d [rank 20] 108 andyc16us Andy Cragg 37d [rank 20] 109 che Christian Ensel 3:26h [rank 30] 110 jankom Janko Metelko 36d [rank 20] 111 alanwall Alan Crandall 35d [rank 30] 112 kensinglet Ken Singleton 34d [rank 30] 113 bga Bruno Albuquerque 29d [rank 10] 114 aiwen aiwen ming 28d [rank 10] 115 james-nak James Nakakihara 28d [rank 40] 116 gaagaaga Y.C. Ling 27d [rank 10] 117 morler Morler 27d [rank 10] 118 devl Lennart Fridén 26d [rank 10] 119 brondoman Greg Brondo 26d [rank 10] 120 ladislav Ladislav Mecir 1:13h [rank 50] 121 scot Scot M. Sutherland 15:21h [rank 40] 122 meijeru Rudolf W. MEIJER 3d [rank 30] 123 czoller chris zoller 11d [rank 30] 124 rfenske Robert Fenske 11d [rank 30] 125 cofyc Cofyc Jackson 7d [rank 10] 126 jackseay Jack Seay 4d [rank 10] 127 kuler Keith Robertson 4d [rank 10] 128 kpeters Kai Peters 3d [rank 10] 129 acasado alberto casado 3d [rank 10] 130 giancarlo Giancarlo Valente 8:52h [rank 10] |
geez it's a public group here, i forgot sorry... | |
| Henrik 15-May-2009 [2587] | the list is public anyway by curtesy of R3 chat webversion. |
| Graham 15-May-2009 [2588x2] | Altme is still the place to learn about Rebol and undocumented functions! |
It would be nice if we ask users to present examples etc in a structured format so that we can data mine the information here and publish automatically to a knowledgebase. | |
| BrianH 15-May-2009 [2590] | There's a REBOL 2 section in DocBase for just that kind of thing :) |
| Graham 15-May-2009 [2591x2] | So, I take it you have updated the information on array ? |
Just trying to avoid duplication of effort ... if we structure the post here, it could be automatically be used to update somewhere else. | |
| BrianH 15-May-2009 [2593] | Nope, but it's on my list. I think a new R2 manual built on the same foundation as the R3 manual would be nice too. |
| Graham 15-May-2009 [2594] | Of course from history we know this will never happen. |
| Steeve 15-May-2009 [2595x2] | can't we parse the archives we some clever algorithm to have it done ? |
*not we, with | |
| Maxim 15-May-2009 [2597] | graham, don't you see some changes in the REBOL spectrum in the last months? |
| Graham 15-May-2009 [2598] | Years ago I released a program that collected all the mailing list into a personal database .. and I allowed users to execute programs in the emails if they were enclosed in blocks .. an old Rebol trick. |
| Steeve 15-May-2009 [2599] | Ah Maxim, i'm sure you can do that with your liquid |
| Maxim 15-May-2009 [2600] | I mean, come on... pekr hasn't been negative, for like... months... that has to mean something ;-D |
| Graham 15-May-2009 [2601] | No one ever posted their short scripts enclosed by blocks :( |
| Steeve 15-May-2009 [2602] | (your program, not your body fluid) |
| Sunanda 15-May-2009 [2603] | < present examples etc in a structured format > There is the underused checklists /code snippets |
| Graham 15-May-2009 [2604] | so, such a simple thing as [ my script ] was not possible. No wonder people go off topic :) |
| BrianH 15-May-2009 [2605] | Or off the list altogether. |
| Graham 15-May-2009 [2606x3] | Human nature ... |
We can create rules to try and rein in the anarchists | |
How about putting a Rebol [] header in front of examples? then a parser would at least know to start from there .. until it hit some syntax error and would then know the example had terminated. | |
| BrianH 15-May-2009 [2609] | It also makes it easier to copy-run the examples. If you have a rebol [] header in front of your code, you can copy it and do clipboard:// |
| Graham 15-May-2009 [2610] | Clipboard is bugged in Altme. |
| Maxim 15-May-2009 [2611x2] | yes it is ! |
but once it starts working, it doesn't bug anymore... which is what I find strange about it. | |
| Graham 15-May-2009 [2613] | not for me .. once it stops .. it maintains this state. |
| mhinson 15-May-2009 [2614] | I have been teasing my script into action and not asked any questions for hours... now I am off to bed. |
| Sunanda 16-May-2009 [2615] | It would be simple to add the ability to execute a script embedded in the REBOL.org archive of this world, eg: do http://www.rebol.org/aga-execute-post.r?post=r3wp174x26 Provided the post (like the one in the example) consists solely of script. Headers can be added if needed. Is this a common need? |
| mhinson 16-May-2009 [2616x2] | As a noob I am more likely to want to copy the script into my editor, then modify it a bit to see if I have understood the example. Just running an example would be handy to check it had no errors in it, but not very educational as far as I can see. As the web public version of the chats is not right up to date I would find improving the AltME client the most usefull thing to help me learn. Paticularly fixing the cut & paste functions & adding mouseless navigation & perhaps the ability to use fixed width font to view code in messages. Thanks, |
And the ability to edit previous messages to correct errors. | |
| Graham 16-May-2009 [2618] | I get a 404 on that link at rebol.org |
| Maxim 16-May-2009 [2619] | I think it was potential idea. |
| Graham 16-May-2009 [2620] | because the clipboard is problematic .. I think it's a good idea. |
| mhinson 16-May-2009 [2621] | Something I have learnt today... I have been looking again at some of the examples I have been given here & now I have a bit more understanding of Rebol I am able to reformat the examples into multiple lines and indent them appropiatly which makes them more understandable for a noob like me. I needed enough understanding to see where one complete statement part ended & the next one began before I could do this. What I have learnt is that I should have tried harder, sooner to do this & it would have speeded up my learning... I am looking at graphics today & giving parse a break for the rest of the weekend. |
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