World: r3wp

First, which version of REBOL are you using? If not 2.7.6, it won't 
work.

Oh wait, it's the contents of the does. Try this: does [make port-proto 
[]]

2.7.6.3.1
it is new like me

That works, thank you.

Even the old guard makes newbie mistakes sometimes :)

10 push-ups for Brian

I nearly guessed it, but as a noob there are so many options that 
I could be a while wondering if it is my typing or something too 
basic to notice.

Clearly the latter :)

These hordes of newbies, always asking foolish questions & never 
looking at the documentation. ;-)

they are not so much (newbies) there, they faint after some days 
usually

I'm not sure how well-documented the change to ARRAY is. I didn't 
handle the documentation of the 2.7.6 release.

someone did?   ;-)

if I have this
mike: array/initial 3 array/initial 3 array/initial 3 none
modAndPort: "2/2"
UpState: 2
data: "disabled"

How do I use the variables to create this logic please
mike/2/2/:UpState: data

mike/ModAndPort/:UpState: data

Something like this I was hoping
mike/(ModAndPort)/:UpState: data
** Script Error: Invalid path value: 2/2

I don't know, Maxim. We have to do better about that in future R2 
releases.

Mhinson, your first line can be this: ARRAY [3 3 3]

The none value is the default, and the multiple calls can be replaced 
by the [3 3 3].

More typing saved, thats good.

As for the path stuff, you may be out of luck. Try this:
m: 2
p: 2
u: 2

mike/:m/:p/:u: "disabled"

ok, so I have to split it into integers.. Nice to hear it from the 
developer of the ARRAY  :-)

It's not just more typing saved. The value passed to array/initial 
is not copied, it is referenced. Your version would have aliasing 
issues.

If you specify multiple dimensions instead it creates unique nested 
blocks instead of multiple references.

Thanks for point this out, I see it is very important.

I will try to use your new function passing once I get it working 
in a basic form.  Thanks.

Learn to love the SOURCE function :)

>> source array
array: func [
    "Makes and initializes a series of a given size."

    size [integer! block!] "Size or block of sizes for each dimension"
    /initial "Specify an initial value for all elements"
    value "Initial value"
    /local block rest
][
    if block? size [
        rest: next size
        if tail? rest [rest: none]
        size: first size

        if not integer? size [make error! "Integer size required"]
    ]
    block: make block! size
    case [
        block? rest [

            loop size [block: insert/only block array/initial rest :value]
        ]
        series? :value [
            loop size [block: insert/only block copy/deep value]
        ]
        any-function? :value [
            loop size [block: insert/only block value]
        ]
        insert/dup block value size
    ]
    head block
]

I often look at it but lak the skill to interpret it very well.

help & source are so powerfull a feature in rebol

They're how I learned this stuff :)

people don't realise that the console provides many features visual 
IDEs dont provide

oh was that a RTFD coming from Brian ? so mean...

Wait, it does copy/deep the initial value. It's been a while since 
I looked at that function :(

array [x x x] is much neater though

So it really does just save typing.

:)

Note it only only does copy/deep of series. Objects are still referenced, 
so you still need the does [make proto []].

Some say that developers are born with a finite number of key strokes... 
once they are used up, that is the end.

hmm, it's a bug no ?

or a missing feature, as you wish

No, I can see the value of only copying series. You don't usually 
want to copy objects - it's not as safe.

ok i do 10 push-ups

I need more excercise anyways :)

Spelling doesn't count if it's not code though :)

every single day (and often a few times that day):

- I open up a rebol console from quick-launch bar in windows (taking 
about 0.1 sec to appear)
- type help 'some-func 
- test the 'some-func with some-data I'm using. 
- close the console.  


overall it takes about a few seconds, to do a unit test of something 
I'm adding.
 no bloat,  no dangling window.

python offers something similar... but:
- python takes anywhere from 3-10 secs on load.  

- then you have to know in what lib the most basic function is (alread 
half as usefull) 
- the console itself is really bad, 
- previous commands browsing is really stupid

- having to type so much more code to get the simplest function test 
going is a pain
- in the end, its a non-feature.

I leave a R2 and R3 console open full-time while I'm working. It 
helps to have R3 open too since I don't always remember how much 
of R3 I've backported to R2, so sometimes I remember a function that 
doesn't exist in R2.

I found a cosmetic bug in the console

I was just pointing out that rebol is sooo fast to launch that you 
can close it and its not a pain... I easily get up to 10-15 windows 
open at a time, and when you've got half of them as rebol consoles, 
its easier not to guess which one is the help window  :-)

impossible... the console is *perfect*   ;-)

i have 3 R3 consoles (one for the chat, on for test, one for... i 
don't remember)
I have 1 R2 console for testing

maxim, it's amazing that R3 is even faster at launching.

Text mode :)

well.. Obviously, Carl keeps removing stuff from REBOL... just ask 
steeve   ;-)

nah, it's just that Carl has secretly figured out how to do random 
compression.