World: r3wp

.... as with 1.3, when you use dialog boxes (alerts for eg), you 
can click background window ...

modal, yes. always-on-top, no (that needs native support)

modal? How - it was one of bobik's earlier questions, we tried a 
lot, but nothing worked for us ...

use inform instead of view

as for always-on-top or other modes of Windows, it is a pity we don't 
have them. It is just one single function call, which even C lamer 
as me was able to wrap ;-) ShowWindow or ShowWindowPos

it does not seem to work:

view layout [btn "So what?" [inform layout [text "So what?"]]]

I can get to underlying window ...

you can get to it, but it ignores events. again, always-on-top needs 
native support, there's nothing we can do about it.

aha .... it is a bit tricky, because you can get-to-it, exactly as 
you said - so it does not receive events, but it can get focus, so 
your dialog-box may go under the initial window and user might think 
app is blocked ...

hopefully the parent option will be made to work again.

one trick might be to check regularly if the modal window is on top, 
and if not, bring it on top.

altme does something like this (try to open a subwindow, like a group 
window and so on)

I am not sure Rebol low level windowing system is not weak a bit 
... Rebol should imo detect two or more monitors and put them in 
system/view/screen-face .... as a several blocks .... or even it 
should probably get to multiple desktops ....

ah, changing it in pane? Cute ..... :-) Bobik came up with other 
trick - he simply made bitmap of underlying window and he does his 
dialog on that bitmap. So user thinks he still sees his bacground 
window, while it is only a bitmap .... or something like that. Not 
sure I understood him correctly ...

well, why not putting the requester in the main window's pane then.

so how can i get layout of requester(f.e. request-text) to do it 
?> insert tail system/view/sreen-face/pane/1/pane   <what?>

ehhm - Pekr  has explained this idea, so thanks a lot...

is there any standary way to specify a search path for library kind 
of rebol source files what are tipically imported to end-user programs?

i have seen #include in rebgui.r but as help #include says as well, 
its an issue, not a function.. :/ (i read about it somewhere that 
its a kind of "directive" for the rebol/sdk or what?)

#include is an encap ( well, a pre-rebol ) directive.

prebol is a preprocessor. it puts all files in one script. if you 
want, a dialect for merging scripts. and #include is one of its commands.

good to know, but what is the solution to my problem if there is 
any at all? or plz change me mind about it so i wont need it in the 
future

Maxim has a library manager which is in the library.

thx! will have a look at it later

see http://www.fm.vslib.cz/~ladislav/rebol/include.rhttp://www.fm.vslib.cz/~ladislav/rebol/include.html

hello, could you anybody help me, how to use "multi" if i am making 
own style...

i see in examples, that i can use word text, file... so can i use 
f.e. logic?

Or where can i find documentation about it?

LAYOUT calls GROW-FACETS which handles some types and collects others 
in blocks to let NEW/MULTI handle them (where NEW is the face which 
is being created.) See the code here:
print mold get in svv 'grow-facets

It collects lonely values and puts them in facets. a string is put 
in /text, a tuple in /color etc. multiple values are put in /texts, 
/colors etc.

so  thank you , i will try to understand it :-)

Not seeing messages.  Sorry for the traffic.

not many being posted.

but you can try and force a synchronisation by posting a "." in each 
channel :(

Hey Brian, there is something else you can try, it is a theory I 
have.  Uninstall AltME. Reinstall, and sync back up.  When you think 
it is finished, close out, and start again, let it sync again.
If you are willing....



I never see this "." problem, but many do.  Most people in our office 
don't, and it just might have something to do with the way it was 
originally synced.

it sometimes help for me to logout and in a few times...

That is useful to know.  So you are saying that one our of X times 
logging in, it will suddenly sync?

once = one

Sorry, let me restate............"one out of X times."

it's pretty random

sometimes I wonder why noone said anything for 2 days. then I logout 
and when I login it resyncs

there's also sometimes a thing with how altME detects a lost connection. 
this doesn't always happen, so that could be when sync is lost

Random or not, it will sync if you log in multiple times in the same 
time frame (like say with in an hour or so)?

haven't done it that many times (4-5 times maybe), but it usually 
resyncs after the first relogin. I can't remember if there is a specific 
timeframe there was held up, between relogins

It's not going to be a good bug report :-) I don't have enough details. 
I only know that sometimes it helps to relogin again

That helps.  since this one is such a pain we like to know everything 
about it.  Eveyr little bit helps.  But we are not convinced it is 
inside AltME.  it might be a little deeper.

is it possible to do some digging if there is an account that is 
currently out of sync?

What do you mean by digging?

catching it in the act

Not that I know of.  This is the very type of bug that hides from 
debuggers.  If we dump all the states, it all looks good.  We are 
pretty good at finding bugs (actually we are award winning).  It 
is not like we have not tried a bunch of things.  We will nail this. 
 The work we are doing with IOS + Rebol will probably reveal it.