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btiffin 20-Feb-2008 [1355x2] | Rod. Classic. Not as classic as Starting Forth, but hey. Marcel Hendrix has posted Starting Forth as well, but had trouble with the cartoons, and the replacements are not quite as "fun". And just so ya know, only Marcel was given the right to copy, explicity only Marcel, by Forth Inc. http://home.iae.nl/users/mhx/sf.html |
Whoa. Elizabeth has posted a much nicer reprint on the forth.com site. http://www.forth.com/starting-forth/ Nice! | |
Rod 20-Feb-2008 [1357] | Thanks Brian, will check out starting forth as well. |
btiffin 20-Feb-2008 [1358] | Most of had Starting Forth and Thinking Forth so our bosses bought us great huge fat Thesauri thinking it would make us better coders. We laughed at first, then our dictionary grew to the 100,000 word mark and they started to get dog eared. :) |
Rod 20-Feb-2008 [1359] | Hah, I can already appreciate that view, even with just a little reading and applying it to some work concepts I found the desire for words exploading! |
btiffin 20-Feb-2008 [1360] | Yeah; I think I was on my ninth or tenth version of "READ" when I started going with foreign languages. And being forthers, you wouldn't want to write TROUBLE-REPORT over and over again, so we got used to TRP and FLD and got really good at pronouncing just about any random collection of letters. TERP and FLUD (field) for the former. It's why I don't use the expression SeQueL It's SQEEL! :) Ahh, fun with words. |
JohanAR 3-Mar-2008 [1361] | I have this reduce statement, that's supposed to form a block for later processing. Now I want to include in that a switch to add some more stuff if a variable is not none. However it seems like the if-statement returns a none which gets included in the result block :( block: reduce [ 'aword "blah blah" if var [ 'avariable var ] ] |
Henrik 3-Mar-2008 [1362x4] | block: reduce ['aword "blahblah" either var [['avariable var]][[]]] |
seems to include the rest as a block | |
better one: block: compose ['aword "blahblah" (if var [['avariable var]])] | |
remember the extra block inside the if statement, otherwise only 'var will be returned from it | |
JohanAR 3-Mar-2008 [1366] | I still seem to get a none in the block if the varable isn't available |
Henrik 3-Mar-2008 [1367] | block: compose ['aword "blahblah" (either var [['avariable var]][[]])] |
JohanAR 3-Mar-2008 [1368] | It works! :) thanks alot |
Will 4-Mar-2008 [1369] | what is the best way to convert this 4E-2 to 0.004 ? |
Oldes 4-Mar-2008 [1370x4] | formDecimal: func[ number [decimal!] digits [integer!] /local negative? p result ][ if digits <= 0 [return form to-integer 0.5 + number] if negative?: number < 0 [number: - number] p: power 10 digits result: form to-integer number * p + 0.5 if number < 1 [ insert/dup result "0" (1 + digits - length? result) ] if negative? [ insert result "-" ] head insert skip tail result negate digits #"." ] >> formDecimal 4E-2 4 == "0.0400" |
>> formDecimal (4E-2 / 10) 3 == "0.004" | |
hm.. maybe not the best as there is this issue: formDecimal 4E-3 2 == "0.00" | |
it depends what do you need... if is important the value or how the rounded value looks like | |
Will 4-Mar-2008 [1374] | thank you Oldes, I thought there was a native or mezz for that |
sqlab 9-Mar-2008 [1375] | a little bit late form-dec: func [ number [decimal!] ] [ form case [ number > 1 [number] number > 0 [ join "0" at form number + 1 2 ] number > -1 [ join "-0" at form number - 1 3 ] true [number] ] ] |
JohanAR 14-Mar-2008 [1376] | why does join 'a 'b return "ab" instead of 'ab ? |
Sunanda 14-Mar-2008 [1377] | join always returns a string unless the first value is of type? series. >> join 1 2 == "12" Try source join to see the actual code. |
[unknown: 5] 14-Mar-2008 [1378] | JohanAR, use this instead: attach: func [a b][to type? a join a b] |
JohanAR 14-Mar-2008 [1379x2] | thanks! |
On to the next question :) Why is '= valid but '< or '> aren't? | |
Geomol 14-Mar-2008 [1381x2] | My guess is, that it's becuase < and > are part of tag type, like <tag>. So it's a restriction to make value evaluation easier internally. |
>> blk: [=] == [=] >> blk: [<] ** Syntax Error: Invalid tag -- < ** Near: (line 1) blk: [<] >> blk: [<tag>] == [<tag>] | |
BrianH 14-Mar-2008 [1383] | >> type? first [<] ** Syntax Error: Invalid tag -- < ** Near: (line 1) type? first [<] >> type? first [ < ] == word! |
Geomol 14-Mar-2008 [1384] | hehe, funny! :) |
BrianH 14-Mar-2008 [1385x4] | I guess it is special-cased in the loader. |
>> attempt [[<]] ** Syntax Error: Invalid tag -- < ** Near: (line 1) attempt [[<]] >> attempt [load "[<]"] == none | |
This relates to the sandboxing discussion I was just having with Paul. | |
The first error isn't caught because the load happens before the attempt is called. | |
JohanAR 14-Mar-2008 [1389] | you can ofcourse use to-word "<" but it's not very good looking if you have to cover all of <, <=, >, >=, <> etc.. managed to avoid the case by using compose instead of reduce though |
JohanAR 15-Mar-2008 [1390] | Is it possible to define a function, which takes another function as argument and that the argument func must take exactly two arguments in it's turn? |
PeterWood 15-Mar-2008 [1391x5] | This is how you can pass a function to a function: >> a: func [a [function!]] [ print a 1 2] >> b: func [x [integer!] y [integer!]] [add x y] >> a :b 3 |
Sorry about the formatting; let my try again: >> a: func [a [function!]] [ print a 1 2] >> b: func [x [integer!] y [integer!]] [add x y] >> a :b 3 | |
I think you will need to "manually" check that the supplied function uses the correct number of arguments | |
>> c: func [a [function!]] [if 2 = length? first :a [print a 1 2]] >> c :b 3 | |
>> d: func [][print "no args"] >> c :d == none | |
JohanAR 15-Mar-2008 [1396x3] | Mm, I ended up writing something similar to that. Found out that I also have to check if third first :a is /local, which would also be a valid function |
getargs: function [ :fun "Get arguments from this function" ][ out pblock ][ out: make block! 10 parse third :fun [ some [ string! ; Strip comments | [ [word! | get-word! | lit-word!] (pblock: [any-type!]) opt [string!] opt [set pblock block!] opt [string!] (append/only out pblock) ] ] ] out ] | |
a little messy, but it appears to work :) | |
BrianH 15-Mar-2008 [1399x6] | You don't have to manually check to see if the function takes two arguments; this is good, because doing so is awkward. All you really need to do is call the function in parentheses ( ) or at the end of a code block, so that it can't take more than two arguments even if it tries. If it takes less than two arguments, who cares? |
Be sure to assign the use or assign the result of the function call inside the parentheses, rather than outside them, in case the function takes less than the number of arguments you are expecting it to. | |
Do source replace in REBOL 2.7.6 for an example of this - look for the parentheses. | |
The ARRAY function in 2.7.6 does the end-of-the-code-block method for function value arguments. | |
If the datatypes the function value is expecting don't match the data that your function is passing to it, no problem: A nice error message will be generated at runtime that the developer of the function value can use to fix their function value. :) | |
assign the use -> "use" | |
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