World: r3wp

In my experience there are a number of applications, games, etc that 
use there own display settings but do not seem to change the actual 
desktop settings and therefore do not affect other running applications 
such as View.  This may or may not be what is actually going on I've 
just come to this conclusion because when some applications change 
the display settings or use different display settings then all the 
desktop icons are moved to fit within the alternate resolution whereas 
other applications do not have this effect.

OMO View crash only if you change screen resolution. Not affected 
by color depth.

I think it can't change the sv/screen-face/size at runtime. It initialize 
it at startup.

also crashes if you change number of monitors without changing resolution

Benjamin -- There is no native way to change cursors in REBOL. Cyphre 
has done some experiments with it, and the APIs should be easy enough 
to call if you have /pro. Can't remember if I ever mapped those or 
not.

what are good colors for a code-colorizer?

I've had /View Apps crashing after my WinXP restarted from hibernate 
mode. But not all of them. I don't know whether it was dependant 
on the app, or on the version of rebol ...

Volker -- colours for code will be highly subjective.
See Carl's choices here:

     http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=color-code.r
And  REBOL.org's choices here (look for "script colorizer"):
     http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/css-view-system.r

Gregg, if you check out the DLL.SO group, you can see Benjamin is 
already tackling changing cursors with user32.dll !

Volker, I usually like the colours to be not very bright, ie. I set 
my strings to be very dark green, keywords to dark red or blue etc. 
so most of the text is close to black. But, as Sunanda said, that's 
subjective, my point of view.

I use this style sheet for my colour code: http://www.ross-gill.com/styles/rebol-code.css

Thanks for suggestions. Have to look into that. Currently i have 
anti-colors, mostly because i box the words, not just colorize them. 
looks like suqeaks etoys :) to see it, run edit-tools in my developer-folder, 
open a script, choose color-rebol.r in the plugin-list and close 
your eyes quickly :)) more a demo how to markup text.

Whoa! what a bizarre user experience!  :)

hehe ;)

I click "edit-tools", then I press "open" button, it opens a dialog 
"save /d/anton/dev/rebol/link/developer/et/doc/readme.txt" [Yes] 
[No]...   eh !??!

oops, yes. choose no.

I press [No], then it opens a file requester, so I press "Cancel" 
and that minimizes the edit-tools app. Is this an april fools joke 
that no-one discovered in time ?

thats the first-time opened file, if you use the multi-file-version. 
missing files are created. then it thinks that missing file on disk 
is diferent to that empty edited file and -hu, more problems?

should test on windows first maybe.

can you open a real file with the requester?

no idea about minimizing. crash maybe, but minimize?

You had me reading code there... yeah that's weird, the minimize 
- no where in code is "minimize" found.

Here's the problem, surely:
	button "open" [save-file/? ta sr open-file refresh]

can you look for
  wait: :my-wait
and delete that?

it contains a workaround on linux. maybe windows does not like it.

refresh -> window -> hide main-window

aah - hmm, on linux i use [hid main-window] to stop timers before 
replacing layout. on windows that minimizes?

yes

on linux it does nothing, except stopping timers and flash a moment.

so that should be changed to [hide main-window/pane perhaps.

somewhere in the [window: func]

Mmm.  HIDE doesn't work on latest Rebol/View betas, but it minimizes 
a window face on View 1.2.1.3.1

doesn't work

 = doesn't change appearance of the window (don't know about timers 
 yet)

published a fix. can you try it again?

Open still tries to save, obviously, but when I cancel now it does 
not minimize (I see a quick flash of the window though)

:) The next problem is: why is the "Open" button asking to save ?

open tries to save the last file. it thinks it is modified, instead 
its missing. but text <> attempt[read file], so..

Ok...

Gosh! the two scrollers interact with each other...

its tricky to stop the timers. hide works but flashes. hide on window 
does not flash on linux, so i thought i had a good way.

yes, use the left. the right scrolls a fixed amount.

sometimes i have files with some 100kb. than the normal scroller 
scales not fine enough. then i use the right one to scroll in that 
area.

Ah yes, a relative scroller. Middle-mouse button would be good for 
this one day...

yes, poor mans middle mouse :)

Maybe we can trap right+left combo ?

hmm, worth trying

I wanted to make one of those relative scroller icons as seen in 
Firefox. One day...

Well, I got it to colourize some code. Pretty ugly ! ;-) but you're 
getting there. Interesting "floating" coloured blocks.

interesting point is, you give it a text-face, a start and end, and 
a template for markup and do:
  markup-face ta make markup-face! [color: local/2] start end
and then you have markup :)

Very cool Volker! You never cease to amaze me.

*=blush*= :)9