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Brock 2-Nov-2006 [5998x3] | I'm not using AGG in this instance. |
I found that the dark grey 'border' worked okay with a dark background and not so as suitable for a light background, atleast for the smaller image. | |
I'll play a little more before trying your gamma trick. | |
Maxim 2-Nov-2006 [6001x6] | dark haloes are sometimes due to the contrast of actual pixels when two colors are placed side-by side. |
consider this to be 2 pixels [b g r] [b g r] | |
if you had these two colors side by side (- meening that pixel channel is not lit): [b - - ] [- - r] | |
then I guess you can understand that our eye will notice that large 4 channel gap in between pixels. | |
the ordering of channels also means that these side-effects only occur in one direction: if you placed [ - - r] [b - - ] there would be no edge between red and blue (but will be from blue to next pixel) | |
MS's new font aliasing engine uses this technique to use sub channels so that edges actually hit pixel channels instead of complete pixels... whic is why some letters look colored on edges... but when you see it, there is very nice increase in overall quality... its like increasing the resolution of your screen by a factor of 3 ! | |
Louis 2-Nov-2006 [6007] | Maxim, thanks. I'll study that doc. |
Gabriele 2-Nov-2006 [6008] | brock, why don't you just use an alpha channel? |
Brock 2-Nov-2006 [6009x2] | I was able to get Anton's example to work in the scenario I had indicated above. I'm open to looking into your suggestion, do you have an example that I can use. I checked some of the rebol/view docs and the image datatype doc and don't see anything that guides me in the direction you are suggesting. |
By the way Anton, thanks for your example, works well except for the fringing around the ani-aliased part of the image... still maintains some of the colour of the original background colour. | |
Gabriele 2-Nov-2006 [6011x3] | if i understand correctly, you need to use draw to produce a transparent image. is that correct? |
so my question is, why do you need to make one color transparent, instead of using the alpha channel? | |
img: make image! 50x50 img/alpha: 255 ; make bg transparent draw img [pen black line-width 2 circle 25x25 20] save/png %test.png img | |
Maxim 2-Nov-2006 [6014] | he is not using draw. AFAIK |
Brock 2-Nov-2006 [6015] | Maxim, yes, I'm using draw. |
Maxim 2-Nov-2006 [6016] | doh... sorry. |
Brock 2-Nov-2006 [6017] | I'm creating the image in a block, then using draw to display the final image. |
Maxim 2-Nov-2006 [6018x3] | can you give us a real equivalent example? |
there are many possible edge defects... seeing them will help us cure the booboo :-) | |
right now we're like swatting flies in the dark... with you having the infra red goggles and saying: LEFT ! LEFT! .. oh no RIGHT! RIGHT ;-) | |
Brock 2-Nov-2006 [6021x6] | hilight-colour: 255.0.0 ;0.112.99 ;request-color font-style: make face/font [style: 'bold name: "font-sans-serif" size: 26] hilights: [ transform 0 1 1 0x0 0x0 fill-pen snow pen snow ;white circle circle 10x10 9 fill-pen black pen black ;black circle circle 13x13 9 fill-pen hilight-colour ;0.112.99 pen hilight-colour ;serve dark green - 0.112.99 circle 11x11 9 fill-pen snow pen snow font font-style text 1 6x0 "*" ] view center-face out: layout [ origin 0 bx: box 23x23 50.50.50 effect [draw hilights effect []][ file: request-file/only/save/file %hilight.png if not file [exit] if not find file ".png" [append file ".png"] save/png file to-image bx img: load file colour: pick img 1x1 repeat i length? img [if colour = pick img i [poke img i 0.0.0.255]] save/png file img ] ] |
this is a stripped down version (this time one that works without error) | |
clicking on the image brings up the save requestor | |
Using Gabriel's method creates a clean image without the fringing.... | |
hilight-colour: 255.0.0 ;0.112.99 ;request-color font-style: make face/font [style: 'bold name: "font-sans-serif" size: 26] img: make image! 23x23 img/alpha: 255 ;make bg transparent draw img [ transform 0 1 1 0x0 0x0 fill-pen snow pen snow ;white circle circle 10x10 9 fill-pen black pen black ;black circle circle 13x13 9 fill-pen hilight-colour ;0.112.99 pen hilight-colour ;serve dark green - 0.112.99 circle 11x11 9 fill-pen snow pen snow font font-style text 1 6x0 "*" ] file: request-file/only/save/file %hilight.png if not file [exit] if not find file ".png" [append file ".png"] save/png file img | |
Thanks all for your input/suggestions. | |
Anton 3-Nov-2006 [6027] | The "bulk-set alpha" method as shown by Gabriele should evaluate quite a lot faster, too. |
Brock 3-Nov-2006 [6028] | I had problems with his version for resizine the image on the fly. I didn't look at it very long. I'm rethinking whether I need the resize feature as I will likely build a small GUI where are the parameters are set. |
Graham 5-Nov-2006 [6029] | I have access to the F1 - F12 keys .. but what about the Alt-F1 - F12, or other modifiers? |
Maxim 5-Nov-2006 [6030x4] | in the event you have alt/shift/ctrl members. event/shift for example. |
when set to true the modifier was pressed when you pressed the key. | |
combinations exist. | |
the Alt key is sometimes consumed by the OS, same for the Tab... I think someone mentionned that tab + shift is never sent to REBOL. | |
Graham 5-Nov-2006 [6034] | I have to see if rebgui allows me all of this ... |
Louis 5-Nov-2006 [6035x2] | I'm looking for a script to allow communication between users on a lan. rim.r looks like it would work, but the cgi script that ties it together is missing. Does anyone have it? |
Is something even better available? | |
Anton 6-Nov-2006 [6037x2] | There is only event/control and event/shift, nothing to detect Alt key. |
Tab and Shift+Tab can be trapped by Rebol. But Ctrl+Tab cannot be caught by Rebol because Windows consumes this key event before it is sent to the application window (eg. Rebol's window). | |
Maxim 6-Nov-2006 [6039] | wasn't there the Alt support in a prior version. I am almost shure I used to support it in an old app of mine... |
Anton 6-Nov-2006 [6040] | nope |
Pekr 6-Nov-2006 [6041] | but it can be surelly overriden, or can't it? |
Maxim 6-Nov-2006 [6042x3] | events are a datatype not objects, you cannot set any values in them. |
which is why Anton reversed enginerred the do-face mechanism... but in any case, the events are generated by the internal REBOL HAL which accepts some (but not all) OS events and feeds the event port with them. | |
it has been a long standing request that more OS events been sent to scripts... | |
Pekr 6-Nov-2006 [6045x2] | and that was my point. It could accept even ctrl+tab, as that is trappable. But, I remember how Holger argued with me about cross-platform issues .... |
as long as Cyphre is on View part of R3, I believe the situation will be corrected :-) | |
Maxim 6-Nov-2006 [6047] | ahh cross platform is a moot point for many of us. really... the fact that REBOL runs on all platforms is very good. |
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