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Janeks 21-Jul-2006 [5264] | Next question: How to tell that text in 'area face should be auto wrapped? |
Anton 21-Jul-2006 [5265] | These are all ways of specifying the same thing: view layout [area wrap] view layout [area para [wrap?: yes]] view layout [area with [para: make para [wrap?: yes]]] view layout [area with [append init [para: make para [wrap?: yes]]]] and you can test a little bit faster by making the area nice and thin: view layout [area 40 wrap] |
Janeks 21-Jul-2006 [5266] | How is about clipboard for last version of view? Is it possible to insert in clipboard port image? |
Henrik 21-Jul-2006 [5267] | only text is allowed |
Henrik 23-Jul-2006 [5268x2] | I have a small problem regarding event handling in TOOLBAR: Each icon consists of an icon frame face with a pane that contains the icon image and a text face. The icon frame face has an ENGAGE event set for highlighting, doing the action of the button, etc. The containing faces both have their feel set to NONE. Now when clicking on either the text and the image, the event seems to correctly bubble up to the icon-frame face, but OVER and AWAY events correspond to the face in which the event occurs, which can be for example the text face. So if you click on the text face and then drag away, the click is no longer valid, even if the mouse is still over the icon-frame face, because it detects OVER and AWAY for the face, I'm clicking and not the parent face. This causes some clicks to be lost if you are clicking at the edge of the text face and accidentally moving the mouse away from the text face, say, the space between the icon and the text which is a natural place to click. I've tried using DETECT, but this is greatly inefficient, because it processes all events. I've noticed that the standard ICON face in VID behaves the same way. which I think is incorrect. Is there a way to transfer OVER and AWAY information from the parent face? |
view layout [i: icon "Hello!"] demonstrates this: Click and hold on the text and drag towards the icon. Or do the same from the icon towards the text. The click is lost. | |
Anton 23-Jul-2006 [5270] | So the face hierarchy looks like this: tool-bar | icon-frame / \ / \ icon text I would suggest blowing away the feels of the icon and text and do all your event handling in icon-frame/feel. Is there any reason you can't do that ? |
Henrik 23-Jul-2006 [5271] | that's already what I'm doing. the problem is that the OVER and AWAY events seem to be from those faces with FEEL set to none anyway. |
Anton 23-Jul-2006 [5272x6] | You're right, that's a confusing aspect of over and away events in the engage function. |
I am quite positive I solved this before using a combination of feels somehow.... | |
Yep, I was an expert on this 11 months ago, apparently. | |
do http://home.wilddsl.net.au/anton/rebol/doc/event-flow-diagram.r | |
Have a play with that and see if you can capture all the state changes you need. | |
I think now you probably have to have feel/engage in both the icon and text faces. | |
Henrik 23-Jul-2006 [5278x4] | neat program! |
maybe it can be done by measuring the offset instead of relying on AWAY | |
apparently not directly... | |
making it possible to see where an OVER or AWAY came from would make this a whole lot easier. | |
Anton 23-Jul-2006 [5282] | Are you sure you need subfaces ? Is the text really essential as a separate face ? You might avoid all this confusion with feels by using a single face, which can show both an image and text natively, or use the draw dialect. |
Henrik 23-Jul-2006 [5283] | text is required to be centered. this is not possible to do with draw accurately. |
Anton 23-Jul-2006 [5284x2] | (I suspect you are aiming for a simple specification using existing VID styles icon and text. Is that true?) |
Yes it is. It's fiddly though. | |
Henrik 23-Jul-2006 [5286] | I've tried and found it to be too hard to be worth the trouble. It depends on the font and the size of the font. |
Anton 23-Jul-2006 [5287] | Calculating the size of the text is the most fiddly part. But I can help there. |
Henrik 23-Jul-2006 [5288] | I won't be using DRAW. |
Anton 23-Jul-2006 [5289x2] | I've just been doing that whilst making a tab-bar the last couple of days. |
Yes, I don't think you need draw for this. What's the link again to your tool-bar demo ? | |
Henrik 23-Jul-2006 [5291x3] | see announce |
I've redone some feel code so it responds much better now, but there are still problems. this is a different problem now with being unable to use the 'over function to determine whether the mouse is over the icon frame or not while the left mouse button is pressed. | |
so if you are clicking on top of the icon frame and move the mouse away, you can't cancel a click. | |
Anton 23-Jul-2006 [5294] | Mmm.. just quickly, looks to me like you don't need subfaces... but dinner time.. |
Henrik 23-Jul-2006 [5295] | highlighting requires two different effects, one for each face. also there are differences when showing icons and text, or only one of each. |
Anton 23-Jul-2006 [5296] | Ok, so you need subfaces for those effects. |
Henrik 23-Jul-2006 [5297] | oh well... perhaps DRAW is the right way forward to draw the image and then bottom align the text. maybe then it really can be done in one face. |
Anton 23-Jul-2006 [5298] | can't you use font/valign: 'bottom ? |
Henrik 23-Jul-2006 [5299x2] | yeah that seems to work |
I think this is something that's worth taking up for VID+ | |
Anton 23-Jul-2006 [5301] | Ah yes, definitely. I found the system quite confusing when trying to achieve certain things. |
Henrik 23-Jul-2006 [5302] | It's silly that feel/over is blocked when the left mouse button is being held down. this prevents me from detecting the face edge properly. |
Anton 23-Jul-2006 [5303x3] | After intensive study, you can start to see it has its own twisted logic, but it can definitely be improved. |
Yes, you have to use engage. | |
engage and over together. | |
Henrik 23-Jul-2006 [5306] | the problem with engage is that it blocks when another face is overlapping it. the same problem, just in the opposite direction. |
Anton 23-Jul-2006 [5307] | yep :) welcome to madness :) |
Henrik 23-Jul-2006 [5308] | I've almost made it working now, except that exiting from the icon-frame is not detected, when the mouse is held down. I don't know how to deal with that. I can easily "exit" to the subface.... |
Anton 23-Jul-2006 [5309] | The question I tried to answer for a long time was "how do I know if the mouse is in this rectangle or not ?" |
Henrik 23-Jul-2006 [5310] | hmm.. that would mean the main toolbar might need a feel as well. this is getting messy. |
Anton 23-Jul-2006 [5311x2] | engage should get away and up events. |
Ah yes.. but it's the engage of the subface... yes... | |
Henrik 23-Jul-2006 [5313] | it gets the away event, but too many times. I try to block that by asking which face I'm over, using feel/over, but feel/over doesn't work exactly when I need it to. |
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