World: r3wp

actually that is almost slashdottable

but I wouldn't do that to anton's server...

where's the source?

somewhere in the Australian wilderness?

I wouldn't call Melbourne a wilderness!

Not that I would ask a user to use a rotated and skewed gui..!

Why not ? Novell with their XGL on the rotated desktop thinks it's 
useful.

Actually Melbourne is a bit of a wilderness, in a way.

source coming... hang on

Not familiar with Novell/XGL.  Got a link?

it's a linux thing

Here, but there is a video somewhere...
http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/

I"m trying to install Suse on a new AMD motherboard and it doesn't 
recognise the video on the motherboard, and so get some rather disturbing 
effects.

Some videos of XGL here:
http://cto.secs.oakland.edu/~castro/NLD10video/

Ah here it is:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7587965514994593432&q=xgl&pl=true

too bad the framerate is so low. the effects are completely smooth

You can download the video to get smoother playback locally.

do http://home.wilddsl.net.au/anton/rebol/gui/demo-virtual-face.r

Tested on View 1.3.2.3.1

Hehe, that's pretty fun! :-) Good job!

Thanks, appreciate all the feedback.

Maybe reverse perspective transform routine should be in rebcode 
to get speed?

Would be good, but that's not the bottleneck at all.

Anton: I can put the video on my surfnet account, bandwidt enough, 
so you can be slashdotted. Suppl me with a page with all the credits, 
and ...

/.

(credits for you, I'm just mirroring)

Wait wait ! I don't think it's good for "world" consumption.

question: are the events ent over TCP

No, not TCP.

You australians are so modest;-)

Ah.. of course you don't mean you're going to make a post to slashdot. 
Mirror as you wish.

Only if you need it, let me know if you get to much viewers. As long 
as it are only the rebelopers I guess it isn't necessary.

The events are captured in wake-event. Instead of just allowing wake-event 
to DO them, I simulate DO with my reverse-engineered version (mimic-do-event). 
Since I have programmed it I can add features like event-transparent 
faces.

If you can hook up the events to a tcp port we can give X a run for 
its money

My ISP will let me know if they are too flooded. :-) But I don't 
think it will be a problem.

Interesting... can't think what that allows immediately. Do you have 
an application in mind ? Why would that be better than handling events 
natively ?

Application sharing (ui projection over the net)

Event synchronization in application sharing

Ah like shared paint app..

Hmm...

Or basically Terminal Services.

yep

Ok, well I have shown how to mimic do event, so:
	wake-event
		mimic-do-event
			either event-is-for-local-view-of-remote-desktop? [
				send-event-to-remote-desktop
			][
				handle-event-as-usual
			]

	forever [
		wait-for-remote-desktop-message
		update-our-view-of-remote-desktop
	]

I think the difficult part is the compression of the remote desktop 
image so it can be sent down the wire quickly (if that's what they 
do.)

I think there must be a simple dialect to help updates. When a window 
is moved, the remote desktop probably sends "move 40x100 300x320 
to 50x110" to the local machine, and also small background chunks 
to clean up the window drag trash left behind.

(An image of the background could be sent when the connection is 
first established, so it doesn't need to be resent all the time.)

So you could have a number of remote desktops on a rotating 3D cube 
:-)

You would not need to send images. send the samee events to two apps 
and both behave the same. At least as long as no timers are involved, 
else you need a mimic-time too :)

(forgot to mention: very cool demo :)

I'd wish they'd use this perspective twisted GUI stuff more in first 
person shooter games, instead of simple panels you poke with your 
gun or just press a key to activate.