World: r3wp

I've been thinking about this. But how far would we want to go? Simple 
as in the current editor, intermediate or a fullblown IDE?

Hmm, probably a step by step is the best solution. :-)

Pick up an editor and start adding some functionalities. We can decide 
what to add before.

Some editors can be controlled by call, by calling them with file 
and position. they use the curently opened window then. so you need 
only the navigator.

But does somebody really need that?

(In which case i could revisit some prototypes.)

I meant write the editor in rebol. Otherwise I thougth to implement 
an Eclispe plugin (Eclipse is a very good platform in my  opinion) 
but why have I to spend time using Java?

(which -> that)

The editor in rebol can be controlled that way too, with some tricks.

I'd much rather see a tad more advanced version of the current viewtop 
editor. No fancy features like syntax highlighting, but useful stuff 
like indenting, search/replace and undo. It shouldn't feel heavier 
than now

I think that every developer need a good developer environment, don't 
they?

question is what is good. scrolling and searching beats a java-style 
treeview with small things.

luca: for me a good developer environment is one that can be started 
with an executable less than 1 MB, and start typing immediately and 
press one hotkey to run the program, and you can learn to use it 
in about 8 minutes.

I agree with you. This is why I'd like to have it written in rebol. 
:-)

oh and no wizards

I agree too.

wizards are a good indication that you are using something that can 
be too complex for the average developer and that gaining full control 
will take you months of learning.

DO you speak of rebol-headers with auto-date and version update? 
:)

:-D  ... so navigation features are not useful neither?

MY prefered navigation is grep, not some structured view. give me 
every "this-word" in files.

Even if the file is "big"?

I get a seperate list with the hits and can jump from there. emacs.

volker, well... that's a border line. Its more that wizards that 
can set up a set of files for a compile and you have various profiles 
to work against, but you can't really understand what's going on 
behind the Wizard Curtain. I guess this is OK when you are working 
with C or ObjC programs when you want to build libraries and things 
that are OS specific, but it also tells me that this is hard, by 
default. REBOL should absolutely never go in that direction or encourage 
it.

but could be done in rebol with the control-editor-trick.

PARSE could do wonders for a small function browser. I built one 
not long ago.

Also a realtime search bar could be nice. I don't think it would 
be hard to do.

I tried some things based on loaded code. One can search a word in 
all contexts. The other can find the source for loaded functions, 
with a little markup. could be anamonitor jumping to source. But 
never really did that.

That gives the ability to look where a function in some context comes 
really from.

But was never hard enough to figure that out with other ways, so 
never finished it.

I've also built a multiple file search tool. It's not complete yet 
as it doesn't yet search recursively, or launch the editor on the 
appropriate file, but it's helped me out a few times. I'll see if 
I can upload it...

Is upload complex, or do you need to search script?

A good programming approach helps more than a lot of tools. But good 
tools help when you stop on "strange" problems or just need to maintain 
an "old" piece of code or code wrote by others. Do you agree?

how do you mean, "upload complex"?

I'll see if I can upload it.

 once when i wanted to upload i had to search ftp and password etc 
 and that took time.

http://hmkdesign.dk/rebol/msearch.r<-- usable but not complete.

oh... I had it handy, no worries. :-)

the hard part was to walk over to another PC in a different room 
:-)

Aah! :)

:D

but what about it? It would be useful in an editor, I think...

Thats the definition of hardware/software? reaching hardware is hard? 
:)

Of course I could have logged into it with SSH from this room, but 
that would have been too soft on my leg muscles. yeah, I guess you 
can define soft and hardware that way :-)

Looks nice. Can i work onit?

sure, but I would like to keep it public

so all rebolians will benefit :-)

Me too. I usually "blog" my files on my wiki.

it would be nice to be able to search something, doubleclick on a 
line and the editor opens and jumps to the right line... also if 
it could be incorporated the same way as we use request-file, request-dir 
and others

Thats what i am thinking. i had a goto-caret with editor working 
once. Only forgot inwhich project.

if i do omething, its here: http://polly.rebol.it/test/test/code-navigation/

ok, thanks. will keep an eye on it :-)